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EG: cache build dependencies before builds or even HTTP proxy for caching upstream yum / apt.","commit_id":"3624cc9b78fc17d430decc27831f15f8c017f3b8"},{"author":{"_account_id":9369,"name":"Steve Kowalik","email":"steven@wedontsleep.org","username":"stevenk"},"change_message_id":"665aca1d047f0384affc20d62926027371d3ee38","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":97,"context_line":"Servers"},{"line_number":98,"context_line":"-------"},{"line_number":99,"context_line":""},{"line_number":100,"context_line":"No new servers will be required."},{"line_number":101,"context_line":""},{"line_number":102,"context_line":"DNS Entries"},{"line_number":103,"context_line":"-----------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"7a016987_58dfedd8","line":100,"in_reply_to":"7a016987_38943141","updated":"2015-05-21 19:19:00.000000000","message":"I wasn\u0027t planning on wanting to requiring extra machines such as local mirrors or such to keep the complexity of this spec down.","commit_id":"3624cc9b78fc17d430decc27831f15f8c017f3b8"},{"author":{"_account_id":4162,"name":"Paul Belanger","email":"pabelanger@redhat.com","username":"pabelanger"},"change_message_id":"5b05c1c34a7b4ebfd2f79b770f64f21a4a58f4f9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":97,"context_line":"Servers"},{"line_number":98,"context_line":"-------"},{"line_number":99,"context_line":""},{"line_number":100,"context_line":"No new servers will be required."},{"line_number":101,"context_line":""},{"line_number":102,"context_line":"DNS Entries"},{"line_number":103,"context_line":"-----------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3afb71cf_ea4c4378","line":100,"in_reply_to":"7a016987_58dfedd8","updated":"2015-06-04 19:51:52.000000000","message":"Talking to -infra about this, we decided using the ubuntu-trusty dib would be a good step.  Then, building some chroots atop of that jenkins node.","commit_id":"3624cc9b78fc17d430decc27831f15f8c017f3b8"},{"author":{"_account_id":4162,"name":"Paul Belanger","email":"pabelanger@redhat.com","username":"pabelanger"},"change_message_id":"011c07dd2fdf05155325b9df1d3fc1198bb82e17","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":122,"context_line":"-------"},{"line_number":123,"context_line":""},{"line_number":124,"context_line":"Testing that a package is built correctly is easy to verify as well as checking"},{"line_number":125,"context_line":"it is repeatable."},{"line_number":126,"context_line":""},{"line_number":127,"context_line":"Dependencies"},{"line_number":128,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"7a016987_1876153e","line":125,"updated":"2015-05-21 19:05:25.000000000","message":"Perhaps listing existing toolsets from Debian / RHEL that does this.  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As I said above, better wording would be welcome.","commit_id":"3624cc9b78fc17d430decc27831f15f8c017f3b8"},{"author":{"_account_id":6488,"name":"Clint Byrum","email":"clint@fewbar.com","username":"clint-fewbar"},"change_message_id":"8dc50c783432479a2e2fd3cafe56f4cf67d56dce","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":122,"context_line":"-------"},{"line_number":123,"context_line":""},{"line_number":124,"context_line":"Testing that a package is built correctly is easy to verify as well as checking"},{"line_number":125,"context_line":"it is repeatable."},{"line_number":126,"context_line":""},{"line_number":127,"context_line":"Dependencies"},{"line_number":128,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ba3cc151_6733e8f6","line":125,"in_reply_to":"7a016987_d8f19d6c","updated":"2015-07-03 01:08:26.000000000","message":"Err, linting is static analysis, which is a form of test. But I do see where you\u0027re are getting at. I believe we should look at DEP8 and autopkgtest as  a way to leverage existing tests on packages we just want to rebuild. Also that will be rather nice for any packages we create, as we can submit them to Debian and Ubuntuwith tests built in.","commit_id":"3624cc9b78fc17d430decc27831f15f8c017f3b8"}]}