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Where do we leave room for coopetition without effectively squashing any other projects in the ecosystem which aim to solve the same problem that an existing \"official\" project/program also claims to solve?","commit_id":"82e1e8095b16ba62ab02f41cd1dfa2cfb584350a"},{"author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"change_message_id":"bb191c4361d5a93d0a586b11937d3eaed57680e2","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":19,"context_line":""},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"* Project should not inadvertently duplicate functionality present in other"},{"line_number":21,"context_line":"  OpenStack projects. 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For example, rather than write a new config parser, the project should use oslo.config\n\nBut I agree with your point that we should leave room for competition (see my comments above)","commit_id":"82e1e8095b16ba62ab02f41cd1dfa2cfb584350a"},{"author":{"_account_id":1247,"name":"Mark McLoughlin","email":"markmc@redhat.com","username":"markmc"},"change_message_id":"c4d62809935397caa55a185907610e56b02f1dcf","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":26,"context_line":"Maturity"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"--------"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":""},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"* Project should have an active team of contributors"},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"Process"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"-------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"1abeadc6_1e309b55","line":29,"updated":"2014-08-26 08:06:34.000000000","message":"Hmm, I think we assume the contributors to the program is taking responsibility for the new project","commit_id":"82e1e8095b16ba62ab02f41cd1dfa2cfb584350a"},{"author":{"_account_id":7,"name":"Jay Pipes","email":"jaypipes@gmail.com","username":"jaypipes"},"change_message_id":"b3d391c6771437863ae0145722d2879b39a19ebc","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":26,"context_line":"Maturity"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"--------"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":""},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"* Project should have an active team of contributors"},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"Process"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"-------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"1abeadc6_2a9fc760","line":29,"in_reply_to":"1abeadc6_1e309b55","updated":"2014-08-26 14:03:15.000000000","message":"I disagree here. I don\u0027t see why the contributors to the program must take responsibility for the new project. 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Herein lies the difficulty with the training program for docs, or translation for docs. Scope is crucial for each program but especially for cross-project resources it\u0027s critical to limit responsibilities, technical debt, and scope.","commit_id":"82e1e8095b16ba62ab02f41cd1dfa2cfb584350a"},{"author":{"_account_id":2472,"name":"Doug Hellmann","email":"dhellmann@redhat.com","username":"doug-hellmann"},"change_message_id":"a32d92e099ea7146cea4154267a05c0671ada055","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":"* Project should have an active team of contributors"},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"Process"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"-------"},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"* Project must be hosted under stackforge (and therefore use git as its VCS)"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"* Project must obey OpenStack coordinated project interface (such as tox,"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"1abeadc6_07011406","line":32,"updated":"2014-08-26 21:19:39.000000000","message":"A lot of these rules are more appropriate for incubation than adoption. For Oslo we have \"adopted\" several libraries and *then* applied the OpenStack processes to their maintenance. 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