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{"resolutions/20180914-global-reachout.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"943665cbcfb37eeec887db4f7aa3e50cdea0d27d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":16,"context_line":"dominating means of communication within OpenStack technical community. 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I thought (I wasn\u0027t on the TC meeting when the discussion happened but as per reading the etherpad) it was rather a technical problem due to geographical or corporate restrictions","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"6d4f08d85d2261f06ca7120e85831c7241167b55","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":16,"context_line":"dominating means of communication within OpenStack technical community. 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Recommending that we *should* engage on these platforms is contrary to our community\u0027s values and may alienate those of us whose personal values prevent us from using such platforms.","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"23ff02e99dcaebb15f77de5a61678f8e412c39a5","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":24,"context_line":"and many others, which has been elaborated during the past discussions."},{"line_number":25,"context_line":""},{"line_number":26,"context_line":"Therefore it is recommended in this resolution that technical committee members,"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"project leads, project core reviewers and other upstream developers should"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"actively engage in global reachout by using the popular social media app in that"},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"region for communication and promotion purpose."},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3f79a3b5_675c2619","line":27,"range":{"start_line":27,"start_character":68,"end_line":27,"end_character":74},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_0c29d9f0","updated":"2018-09-15 04:51:17.000000000","message":"Done","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"943665cbcfb37eeec887db4f7aa3e50cdea0d27d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":26,"context_line":"Therefore it is recommended in this resolution that technical committee members,"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"project leads, project core reviewers and other upstream developers should"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"actively engage in global reachout by using the popular social media app in that"},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"region for communication and promotion purpose."},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3f79a3b5_15e7a048","line":29,"updated":"2018-09-14 20:04:10.000000000","message":"you\u0027re mixing two types of communication :\n\n* one is to communicate outbound about for example say new releases or decisions that have been made elsewhere. This does not imply a discussion, just broadcasted information.\n\n* the other is active discussion between multiple parties potentially leading to decision makings. \n\nWhile I can understand some need for the former, I strongly disagree on the latter, because it highly fragments our community and make open design harder.","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"6d4f08d85d2261f06ca7120e85831c7241167b55","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":26,"context_line":"Therefore it is recommended in this resolution that technical committee members,"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"project leads, project core reviewers and other upstream developers should"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"actively engage in global reachout by using the popular social media app in that"},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"region for communication and promotion purpose."},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3f79a3b5_d8b39f09","line":29,"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_15e7a048","updated":"2018-09-14 21:03:22.000000000","message":"yes I think I address that in the governance section below ? If it is not clear then I could add a clarification for sure.","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"943665cbcfb37eeec887db4f7aa3e50cdea0d27d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":"region for communication and promotion purpose."},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3f79a3b5_b5d58c49","line":32,"range":{"start_line":32,"start_character":6,"end_line":32,"end_character":32},"updated":"2018-09-14 20:04:10.000000000","message":"this is, I guess, the most debative.","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"6d4f08d85d2261f06ca7120e85831c7241167b55","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":"region for communication and promotion purpose."},{"line_number":30,"context_line":""},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3f79a3b5_38d4131f","line":32,"range":{"start_line":32,"start_character":6,"end_line":32,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_b5d58c49","updated":"2018-09-14 21:03:22.000000000","message":"haha it is not mandatary anyways :P totally up to the individual\u0027s choice.","commit_id":"907920486bb5fe77c66755168a918fe7ea989aa8"},{"author":{"_account_id":14482,"name":"Ian Y. Choi","email":"ianyrchoi@gmail.com","username":"ianychoi"},"change_message_id":"e8471b11bd00ff300375a820d3183326e8a795c6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":14,"context_line":""},{"line_number":15,"context_line":"It has been a widely adopted method of irc channels and mailinglist to be the"},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"dominating means of communication within OpenStack technical community. 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Is the motivation for such governance change to be led by technical issues, or just by preference choices ?\n\nWhile I\u0027m fully open on discussing technical restrictions that de facto prevent our community to communicate, I\u0027m pretty negatively oriented to accept our community to be fragmented because of personal likes.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":2394,"name":"Adam Spiers","email":"aspiers@suse.com","username":"adam.spiers"},"change_message_id":"5030f41d868a2c5f100d7aa0d3b6706fea337067","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":16,"context_line":"dominating means of communication within OpenStack technical community. 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How could we make sure then that anyone in the Nova team shouldn\u0027t be discussing there ?","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"ec658849cf029ca8c711d7fa34005bda3a70bc6b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_91dcf9e1","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_530ae989","updated":"2018-09-18 02:13:35.000000000","message":"This is an answer I tend to have for the past 4 years after I joined the community, which is TC should not have to babysit or TC should not be active in enforcing things.\n\nHere we are not asking for TC to do anything, but simply provide a mechanism for problem settlement. OpenStack is no longer a grass-root open source project caught in a hype. It needs to grow especially with the TC to grow and take more responsibilities. Otherwise why we do the elections every half-years ? \n\nBack to the problem here I agree that most of the time if such issue surface probably it already got serious trouble. But between doing nothing due to the overwhelming problem or dealing with it head on with a solution and iterate, I would prefer the latter one :)","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":2394,"name":"Adam Spiers","email":"aspiers@suse.com","username":"adam.spiers"},"change_message_id":"5030f41d868a2c5f100d7aa0d3b6706fea337067","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_ecfe9368","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_5de98b7c","updated":"2018-09-19 12:06:21.000000000","message":"Agreed, but technology evolves so every now and then those decisions should be reevaluated.  Even if IRC was the best available solution when OpenStack originally decided to use it, better alternatives may have emerged since then, e.g. see\n\n    https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC\n\nwhich even has the advantage of backwards-compatibility with Freenode.\n\nBut I agree with you and Zane that we can\u0027t usefully reevaluate the situation without first obtaining a good understanding of the problems we are trying to solve.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":8181,"name":"Jaesuk Ahn","email":"bluejay.ahn@gmail.com","username":"blujeay.kr"},"change_message_id":"d3a3bb1fbc9c4c5920e99d38ee8d0e147c5ca043","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_c1a918dd","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_86b6d624","updated":"2018-09-19 16:06:29.000000000","message":"Wechat is mainly for Chinese, not for all Asian. Just wanted to clarify. Each country has its own famous chat service per country. Personally, IMHO, I don\u0027t think IRC is root-cause of this issue. As many said, we need to find out or discuss more on what is the exact problem, blockers as a community.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":6928,"name":"Ben Nemec","email":"openstack@nemebean.com","username":"bnemec"},"change_message_id":"fb326e59649dd2a3c626cc1474e56580b62b581b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_e6a0eaf5","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_91dcf9e1","updated":"2018-09-19 15:33:15.000000000","message":"\u003e This is an answer I tend to have for the past 4 years after I\n \u003e joined the community, which is TC should not have to babysit or TC\n \u003e should not be active in enforcing things.\n\nI am not at all saying I don\u0027t think the TC should be active. However, I think they should be active in big picture questions, not adjudicating disagreements within projects. Escalating to the TC should be a last resort, not the solution of record.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"0bac1670d0ce9c2c4faef4c27f5ca3fbb977fb1f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_5de98b7c","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_91dcf9e1","updated":"2018-09-18 13:00:35.000000000","message":"Say the TC blesses the fact that we could have multiple commnunication channels, it would just allow different projects or teams to communicate separately.\n\nThe fact that we clearly express IRC as the sole and only way to communicate isn\u0027t because of personal choices. It\u0027s rather based on strong decisions that led to use this tool.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":6928,"name":"Ben Nemec","email":"openstack@nemebean.com","username":"bnemec"},"change_message_id":"96c52250599090606a3392b33909d043be7082e0","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_530ae989","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_999f57b2","updated":"2018-09-18 00:25:32.000000000","message":"I think the answer for this document is below: \"Developers who feel disparaged or discriminated by an overwhelming local\ndecision making instead of community discussion, is welcomed to submit complains in any format they see fit to the technical committee.\"\n\nHowever, I don\u0027t find that a particularly acceptable answer. Our community, for better or worse, tends to avoid conflict on things like this so I suspect such complaints wouldn\u0027t actually surface until the problem had become excessive. Also, I don\u0027t like the idea of the TC having to babysit the community this way.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":13629,"name":"Zhipeng","email":"huangzhipeng@huawei.com","username":"zhipengh"},"change_message_id":"a12d173884e5e3e6d29650e85bb4e9d7190ec150","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_53d74924","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_999f57b2","updated":"2018-09-17 22:58:11.000000000","message":"This is the question addressed in the below section which is more to do with the governance policy. For example in Cyborg I\u0027ve imposed strict policy on decisions should all be publicized on etherpad and discussed on mailinglist or IRC. If the latter sometime could not be carried out fully the former on must be satisfied. That\u0027s the safety mechanism at least we have, but if someone as a core member or interested party does not even look at the etherpad and provide feedback, that is totally another question.","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":14482,"name":"Ian Y. Choi","email":"ianyrchoi@gmail.com","username":"ianychoi"},"change_message_id":"e8471b11bd00ff300375a820d3183326e8a795c6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_a1c5fc8f","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_c1a918dd","updated":"2018-09-19 16:18:56.000000000","message":"I would be personally okay if some active participants in live streaming discussions would share summaries with video output file(s) but am open to other possible methods how live streaming discussions can reach more people globally (e.g., auto sub-title generation \u0026 auto-translation to multiple languages).","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"},{"author":{"_account_id":6928,"name":"Ben Nemec","email":"openstack@nemebean.com","username":"bnemec"},"change_message_id":"fb326e59649dd2a3c626cc1474e56580b62b581b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":32,"context_line":"app defined here."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"The method of communication should include but not limited to social media, blog"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"post, live streaming discussions, etc."},{"line_number":36,"context_line":""},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"Project Governance Impact"},{"line_number":38,"context_line":"-------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"3f79a3b5_86b6d624","line":35,"range":{"start_line":35,"start_character":6,"end_line":35,"end_character":32},"in_reply_to":"3f79a3b5_ecfe9368","updated":"2018-09-19 15:33:15.000000000","message":"\u003e Agreed, but technology evolves so every now and then those\n \u003e decisions should be reevaluated.  Even if IRC was the best\n \u003e available solution when OpenStack originally decided to use it,\n \u003e better alternatives may have emerged since then, e.g. see\n \u003e \n \u003e https://opensource.com/article/17/5/introducing-riot-IRC\n \u003e \n \u003e which even has the advantage of backwards-compatibility with\n \u003e Freenode.\n\nI know this has been discussed off and on for quite a while, but I think it\u0027s worth highlighting. For our Asian contributors on this review, would moving to something other than IRC for real-time communication help with engagement? Essentially, is the problem here that contributors have an aversion to IRC, or is it that they have a strong preference for WeChat and wouldn\u0027t use anything else?","commit_id":"283e4c3cb4957442950235aa1a6df7b46f5052f1"}]}