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Isn\u0027t it what storyboard is for?","commit_id":"5443e2c7403fa109ffd57fa14aaeb34527b53cfb"},{"author":{"_account_id":970,"name":"Dean Troyer","email":"dtroyer@gmail.com","username":"dtroyer"},"change_message_id":"6a6fbcc8c4df6e2686e3ce7ca955baf06e88d9e8","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":55,"context_line":"Enumerate the items that must be true in order to call the goal"},{"line_number":56,"context_line":"\"completed\" for a given project."},{"line_number":57,"context_line":""},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"#. `python-glanceclient` is not present in the"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"9fdfeff1_586076a5","line":63,"range":{"start_line":58,"start_character":0,"end_line":63,"end_character":39},"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_e7974f8f","updated":"2019-03-01 18:05:02.000000000","message":"Sure, but I do think listing the limited number of projects actually in the OSC repo (6) is relevant.  Neutron is largely done mod another pass for parity, keystone already lost their CLI, it\u0027s mostly SDK transition work, swift code is entirely in the OSC repo from before swiftclient was a thing, so again mostly parity and SDK transition.","commit_id":"5443e2c7403fa109ffd57fa14aaeb34527b53cfb"},{"author":{"_account_id":27900,"name":"Artem Goncharov","email":"artem.goncharov@gmail.com","username":"gtema"},"change_message_id":"4ea884be8e29ca4b9b2bdb6d3e7608456955213e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":55,"context_line":"Enumerate the items that must be true in order to call the goal"},{"line_number":56,"context_line":"\"completed\" for a given project."},{"line_number":57,"context_line":""},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"#. `python-glanceclient` is not present in the"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"9fdfeff1_877c43eb","line":63,"range":{"start_line":58,"start_character":0,"end_line":63,"end_character":39},"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_e7974f8f","updated":"2019-03-05 13:03:27.000000000","message":"good question. You mean those with \"microversion level\" can be shifted to storyboard? On the other hand we want something \"measurable\" here for particularly Train.\nWhat could be further criteria?","commit_id":"5443e2c7403fa109ffd57fa14aaeb34527b53cfb"},{"author":{"_account_id":10239,"name":"Dmitry Tantsur","email":"dtantsur@protonmail.com","username":"dtantsur"},"change_message_id":"35e3ca74b83dc28969b04abd8a851bb9addf792e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"9fdfeff1_c7880b6c","line":64,"range":{"start_line":64,"start_character":3,"end_line":64,"end_character":8},"updated":"2019-03-01 16:13:58.000000000","message":"As much as I would love some cider on this Friday evening, I think you meant Cinder :)","commit_id":"5443e2c7403fa109ffd57fa14aaeb34527b53cfb"},{"author":{"_account_id":27900,"name":"Artem Goncharov","email":"artem.goncharov@gmail.com","username":"gtema"},"change_message_id":"4ea884be8e29ca4b9b2bdb6d3e7608456955213e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"9fdfeff1_c76d6b2f","line":64,"range":{"start_line":64,"start_character":3,"end_line":64,"end_character":8},"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_c7880b6c","updated":"2019-03-05 13:03:27.000000000","message":"ROFL","commit_id":"5443e2c7403fa109ffd57fa14aaeb34527b53cfb"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b741933080f914a9863559471c6715d1d430ce23","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":23,"context_line":"the following statements:"},{"line_number":24,"context_line":""},{"line_number":25,"context_line":"* OSC uses OpenStackSDK for the API invocation."},{"line_number":26,"context_line":"* OpenStack Projects needing a CLI do not offer a standalone CLI tool implementation "},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"  in their client libraries. Instead they provide plugins following the"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"  `specification \u003chttps://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/latest/contributor/plugins.html\u003e`_,"},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"  if this is not already provided by core OSC. It is highly suggested to use"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"9fdfeff1_4c9de5b9","line":26,"range":{"start_line":26,"start_character":84,"end_line":26,"end_character":85},"updated":"2019-03-05 12:41:55.000000000","message":"nit, extra space","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b741933080f914a9863559471c6715d1d430ce23","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"9fdfeff1_cc91d59c","line":62,"updated":"2019-03-05 12:41:55.000000000","message":"This sudden mention of nova feels out of the blue. Is this part of the functional parity with nova-client aspect?\n\nThat\u0027s not clear from the \"For the Train release it is proposed to concentrate on migration of `image` service\" above.","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":6873,"name":"Matt Riedemann","email":"mriedem.os@gmail.com","username":"mriedem"},"change_message_id":"d3b085df1ab7a954636484f4a4ca7946affc8ff1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5fc1f717_f7835455","line":62,"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_6cc22937","updated":"2019-03-06 20:43:03.000000000","message":"Getting to 2.72 (latest in Stein) is going to be tough for the compute API in Train if only 1-2 people are working on this, and it\u0027s then definitely less of a community-wide goal if lots of community non-nova people are working on filling the gaps in the compute API support in OSC.\n\nWhat I have suggested several times when talking about this is hitting some widely-used older release baseline, e.g. mitaka or newton at this point.\n\nThe max compute API version in mitaka was 2.25 and looking at:\n\nhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/compute-api-microversion-gap-in-osc\n\nYou\u0027ll see there are plenty of gaps between 2.1 and 2.25 support in OSC. So a reasonable goal for *nova* would be to have feature parity up through mitaka, which sounds like an extremely low bar, but it\u0027s also something that should be achievable, which I think we\u0027ll need as part of this effort.\n\nIf you want to go further, for the compute API, 2.38 was the max in newton and newton is our current (newest) EOL branch.\n\nFor other projects like ironic and designate that have always had OSC plugins and therefore more current CLIs, setting a goal for mitaka or newton parity doesn\u0027t make sense, so I\u0027m not sure what the goal would be for those projects.","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":27900,"name":"Artem Goncharov","email":"artem.goncharov@gmail.com","username":"gtema"},"change_message_id":"4ea884be8e29ca4b9b2bdb6d3e7608456955213e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"9fdfeff1_6cc22937","line":62,"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_cc91d59c","updated":"2019-03-05 13:03:27.000000000","message":"What I wanted is somehow to describe in details, what is really required. This is a never-ending catch game, where service adds new microversions and CLI need to make use of them. So we might want to give some base.","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b741933080f914a9863559471c6715d1d430ce23","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"9fdfeff1_8c8bcd66","line":64,"range":{"start_line":64,"start_character":3,"end_line":64,"end_character":8},"updated":"2019-03-05 12:41:55.000000000","message":"Cinder","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":6873,"name":"Matt Riedemann","email":"mriedem.os@gmail.com","username":"mriedem"},"change_message_id":"d3b085df1ab7a954636484f4a4ca7946affc8ff1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cider microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5fc1f717_b7f2ac05","line":64,"range":{"start_line":64,"start_character":3,"end_line":64,"end_character":8},"in_reply_to":"9fdfeff1_8c8bcd66","updated":"2019-03-06 20:43:03.000000000","message":"I think the same things I said about nova are going to be true for cinder here, and I\u0027m not sure if anyone has even done a gap analysis for the block storage API with OSC yet to know how much work that will be.","commit_id":"0c00ac3c9f5749850ec1ef3e70671da02792af03"},{"author":{"_account_id":6873,"name":"Matt Riedemann","email":"mriedem.os@gmail.com","username":"mriedem"},"change_message_id":"cf9784a8773daf3fb2ed60cafd780c491090032b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":5,"context_line":"The primary goal of the OpenStackClient is to provide a unified shell command"},{"line_number":6,"context_line":"structure and a common language to describe operations in OpenStack. 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I think you\u0027re just saying it\u0027s been stable for several years and some projects, e.g. keystone, have already migrated from their legacy CLI (python-keystoneclient) to OSC. And other projects have always used OSC plugins for CLI, like ironic, designate and placement.","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":970,"name":"Dean Troyer","email":"dtroyer@gmail.com","username":"dtroyer"},"change_message_id":"dd598f551fff59acc97a8ba9943516b33e6101b7","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* Bring OSC commands to parity with the project CLIs. This is adding resources"},{"line_number":18,"context_line":"  and options so the same operations and capabilities are available in OSC."},{"line_number":19,"context_line":"* Replace OSC\u0027s use of project Python client libraries with OpenStackSDK."},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"  This implies that SDK has the required support and is an external dependency."},{"line_number":21,"context_line":""},{"line_number":22,"context_line":"The target state of the CLI implementation for OpenStack can be described with"},{"line_number":23,"context_line":"the following statements:"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5fc1f717_6e8230cb","line":20,"range":{"start_line":20,"start_character":23,"end_line":20,"end_character":48},"updated":"2019-03-06 18:43:54.000000000","message":"As noted below, this could also be phrased in terms of using the SDK for session management and getting all of the common features while still having the Python API outside of the SDK.  It would be the project\u0027s choice, with the community preference for including official APIs in the SDK directly.","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":6873,"name":"Matt Riedemann","email":"mriedem.os@gmail.com","username":"mriedem"},"change_message_id":"cf9784a8773daf3fb2ed60cafd780c491090032b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* Bring OSC commands to parity with the project CLIs. This is adding resources"},{"line_number":18,"context_line":"  and options so the same operations and capabilities are available in OSC."},{"line_number":19,"context_line":"* Replace OSC\u0027s use of project Python client libraries with OpenStackSDK."},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"  This implies that SDK has the required support and is an external dependency."},{"line_number":21,"context_line":""},{"line_number":22,"context_line":"The target state of the CLI implementation for OpenStack can be described with"},{"line_number":23,"context_line":"the following statements:"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5fc1f717_b7ff0c66","line":20,"range":{"start_line":20,"start_character":23,"end_line":20,"end_character":48},"in_reply_to":"5fc1f717_6e8230cb","updated":"2019-03-06 21:02:30.000000000","message":"If projects have to make a choice, we should provide guidance. So if I\u0027m working on nova which already has a huge OSC gap in functionality, would the recommendation to be to use the existing python-novaclient python SDK for filling the OSC CLI gaps (since OSC already uses novaclient as an SDK)? Or would the recommendation be to get the openstacksdk compute API support up to date first and then have OSC use that to fill the CLI gaps (I very much assume the former).\n\nBut that scenario might not be true for other projects who already have a lot of support in the SDK and can rely on that for fleshing out the CLI.\n\nFor nova, I think it\u0027s going to be one or the other (SDK work or OSC CLI work) and we have to set a goal for an older release parity (mitaka or newton).","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":14070,"name":"Eric Fried","email":"openstack@fried.cc","username":"efried"},"change_message_id":"8b0e9231e44a3939fee12e0a7d4b8f289d515fa4","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* Bring OSC commands to parity with the project CLIs. This is adding resources"},{"line_number":18,"context_line":"  and options so the same operations and capabilities are available in OSC."},{"line_number":19,"context_line":"* Replace OSC\u0027s use of project Python client libraries with OpenStackSDK."},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"  This implies that SDK has the required support and is an external dependency."},{"line_number":21,"context_line":""},{"line_number":22,"context_line":"The target state of the CLI implementation for OpenStack can be described with"},{"line_number":23,"context_line":"the following statements:"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5fc1f717_b327f3b6","line":20,"range":{"start_line":20,"start_character":23,"end_line":20,"end_character":48},"in_reply_to":"5fc1f717_ae78eef7","updated":"2019-03-21 20:25:24.000000000","message":"Hopefully it is clear that nova lacks the resources to bring osc to parity in one release even without porting to SDK. So since this is a long-term thing, my preference would be to do it in the way that doesn\u0027t throw away work, which is what happens if we catch up using novaclient and then start porting to sdk. So I would like to see:\n\n- An initial effort to set up the framework for osc-nova [1] via SDK if that\u0027s not already there. That framework will obviously need to live side-by-side with the existing novaclient back end for \"a while\".\n- Any new work in novaclient mirrored in osc-nova in the sdk-using way, even if it means porting an existing chunk of osc-nova from novaclient to sdk [2].\n- In the background, existing novaclient-using pieces of osc-nova ported to, and parity gaps filled with, sdk-ness \"as resources allow\" [3].\n\n[1] by which I mean openstackclient/compute, unless we care to make a separate osc-nova (osc-compute?) project\n[2] obviously this is not an absolute mandate; if it turns out to be huge for a specific feature, we can have an exception process to defer\n[3] which is obviously the big thing: who\u0027s going to do the work here? Like getting rid of mox [4], this is likely to be a thankless task where somebody does a lot of hard work and then watches their patches sit in limbo because reviewers are focused on fancy features.\n[4] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/mox-removal-stein","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":970,"name":"Dean Troyer","email":"dtroyer@gmail.com","username":"dtroyer"},"change_message_id":"a1c3c0450ede7d493b5bff6a6d2ba83cf02d5a4b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* Bring OSC commands to parity with the project CLIs. 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These are not exclusive and both can be done one command at a time.","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":1063,"name":"Ed Leafe","email":"ed@leafe.com","username":"ed-leafe"},"change_message_id":"e1c3b9959a65341a4e70e2a0fd06d481ed365171","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* Bring OSC commands to parity with the project CLIs. 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While python-Xclient may still exist, it should not deliver own CLI implementation (except plugins to OSC for services not included in OSC natively, and those plugins should ideally use SDK)","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":14070,"name":"Eric Fried","email":"openstack@fried.cc","username":"efried"},"change_message_id":"fe763fe37e3235dfae74d4766e77921b09ed32f0","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":27,"context_line":"  in their client libraries. Instead they provide plugins following the"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"  `specification \u003chttps://docs.openstack.org/python-openstackclient/latest/contributor/plugins.html\u003e`_,"},{"line_number":29,"context_line":"  if this is not already provided by core OSC. 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Monty has committed to keeping the dependencies clean enough so dependencies that servers and python-*client libraries assume are OK are not present on client-side installations (oslo.config I\u0027m looking at you, among others).  With that the SDK should be usable in both contexts.  Of course, server-side usage is always up to the server side teams.","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":27900,"name":"Artem Goncharov","email":"artem.goncharov@gmail.com","username":"gtema"},"change_message_id":"b4d256240e6cd6eb32cbd07609823188c305ac39","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":"  if this is not already provided by core OSC. 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I am ok to put compute here as well, but this does not mean we have people who will implement this.\n\nI have explicitly rephrased it everywhere, that goal is not to deprecate individual clients, but to remove standalone CLI implementation from them. They might still exist and deliver OSC plugins, but not own CLI stuff. Can it still be misunderstood?","commit_id":"d12d289507ce381ee520bdb320d0012d0d91e0f5"},{"author":{"_account_id":6873,"name":"Matt Riedemann","email":"mriedem.os@gmail.com","username":"mriedem"},"change_message_id":"2ff8c50ab9336133b6f5df1bdb6dbff67f9bcf22","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":58,"context_line":"#. `python-glanceclient` is not present in the"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":"   `python-openstackclient` dependencies"},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"#. `image.client` in the OSC is using `OpenStackSDK.image` as a client backend"},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"#. `compute` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"   Nova microversions up to the 2.70"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"#. `volume` service implements all operations and attributes added with"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"   Cinder microversions up to the 3.59"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":""},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"WIP"},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5fc1f717_17d7004e","line":64,"range":{"start_line":61,"start_character":0,"end_line":64,"end_character":38},"updated":"2019-03-06 20:44:17.000000000","message":"See my comments in PS3 but I think this is going to be unreasonable for nova/cinder given the existing large gap. 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