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{"reference/release-naming.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":1,"name":"James E. Blair","email":"jim@acmegating.com","username":"corvus"},"change_message_id":"cbdf9177d0f1feb4cb33924f2a88d29002685650","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":14,"context_line":"trademark (at the end, see step 7)."},{"line_number":15,"context_line":""},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"Note that the process is designed to accumulate a large number of"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"names in a neutral fashion.  Those involved in the process must not"},{"line_number":18,"context_line":"exclude names from the list except when required by the process (step"},{"line_number":19,"context_line":"4 provides the only opportunity and reasons for the list to be"},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"reduced)."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"7faddb67_c4e24830","line":17,"updated":"2019-08-21 18:49:48.000000000","message":"I don\u0027t think that\u0027s helpful.  It is consistent with the rest of the document.","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"},{"author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"change_message_id":"7bd5dbf238677becd24d85a58cbe8ee75debaf7c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":14,"context_line":"trademark (at the end, see step 7)."},{"line_number":15,"context_line":""},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"Note that the process is designed to accumulate a large number of"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"names in a neutral fashion.  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As soon as this"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"   happens, the TC should appoint the coordinator and define the"},{"line_number":33,"context_line":"   geographic area.  This should take the form of a patch which adds a"},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"   row to the table below."},{"line_number":35,"context_line":""},{"line_number":36,"context_line":"#. Anyone may propose a name that matches the `Release Name"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"7faddb67_e4dd046d","line":33,"updated":"2019-08-21 18:49:48.000000000","message":"So far, having the TC decide the area in advance hasn\u0027t been too much of a problem.  Even this time, when it expanded the area, I don\u0027t recall any objections.  It\u0027s at least a collaborative decision making process; we\u0027re pretty good at those.","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"},{"author":{"_account_id":1,"name":"James E. 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Anyone may propose a name that matches the `Release Name"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"7faddb67_6aa47d07","line":33,"updated":"2019-08-21 20:43:59.000000000","message":"Yes, I agree it\u0027s weird, but so far it hasn\u0027t been contentious, while defining a formula that works everywhere is difficult (for example, Shanghai is essentially its own province).  You make a good point about potentially removing or reducing even the possibility of future contention, so that is worth considering if we stick with the current system.  I\u0027d suggest that should be a follow-up to this change.","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"},{"author":{"_account_id":23078,"name":"Jeremy Freudberg","email":"jeremyfreudberg@gmail.com","username":"jeremyfreudberg"},"change_message_id":"a4ca696e571e1a0c42f53c0de9bf670def072eff","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":"#. The process to chose the name for a release begins once the"},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"   location of the summit that takes place during the development"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"   cycle of the release to be named is announced.  As soon as this"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"   happens, the TC should appoint the coordinator and define the"},{"line_number":33,"context_line":"   geographic area.  This should take the form of a patch which adds a"},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"   row to the table below."},{"line_number":35,"context_line":""},{"line_number":36,"context_line":"#. Anyone may propose a name that matches the `Release Name"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"7faddb67_5605b20e","line":33,"range":{"start_line":32,"start_character":54,"end_line":33,"end_character":20},"updated":"2019-08-21 16:47:37.000000000","message":"if we really want to accumulate names in a neutral fashion, and avoid contention, then I believe that we need to have a fixed formula for determining geographic area.","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"},{"author":{"_account_id":23078,"name":"Jeremy Freudberg","email":"jeremyfreudberg@gmail.com","username":"jeremyfreudberg"},"change_message_id":"388ae3caebb5b3a157ce735dca420fe5021312ab","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":30,"context_line":"   location of the summit that takes place during the development"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"   cycle of the release to be named is announced.  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Thanks!","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"},{"author":{"_account_id":23078,"name":"Jeremy Freudberg","email":"jeremyfreudberg@gmail.com","username":"jeremyfreudberg"},"change_message_id":"7a57641a95a40dd3dd5961394e139afa831992f8","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":30,"context_line":"   location of the summit that takes place during the development"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"   cycle of the release to be named is announced.  As soon as this"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"   happens, the TC should appoint the coordinator and define the"},{"line_number":33,"context_line":"   geographic area.  This should take the form of a patch which adds a"},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"   row to the table below."},{"line_number":35,"context_line":""},{"line_number":36,"context_line":"#. Anyone may propose a name that matches the `Release Name"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"7faddb67_7f84415e","line":33,"in_reply_to":"7faddb67_e4dd046d","updated":"2019-08-21 20:19:55.000000000","message":"S: Berlin vs. Berlin+Brandenburg vs. whole Germany -- we went with Berlin\nT: Denver vs. whole Colorado vs. Denver–Aurora combined statistical area -- we went with whole Colorado\nU: Shanghai vs. Shanghai plus all top level administrative divisions up to two hops vs. whole China -- we went with whole China\n\nFirst, it\u0027s a bit weird that we don\u0027t always choose the same size area (regardless of how one defines \u0027size\u0027). It\u0027s not upsetting, just weird.\n\nSecond, recalling our recent experience with U, the TC only settled, out of various possibilities, on \"all of China\" AFTER getting nervous about the Gwoyeu Romatzyh options. You\u0027ve correctly noted that defining the area is easy in the sense that our community is good at collaborative decisions. However, defining the area is actually hard in the sense that making the decision relies on knowledge of what kinds of names the area will offer up and on feeling comfortable enough to bet that at least one of those names will be okay in terms of marketing/trademark. This can cause slowdowns in the process, throwaway work, favoritism. Maybe not always but why risk it. If we just switch to the geographic area being defined by an objective formula then we remove the risk. If it turns out that there are good names outside the formula-derived area then they can always be added by exception.","commit_id":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"}]}