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I think we just don\u0027t have the appetite to deal with this fully and correctly.  It\u0027s a lot of work, and we should find something simpler and better so we can spend our limited time happily working together on our favorite software.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"a4ca696e571e1a0c42f53c0de9bf670def072eff","author":{"_account_id":23078,"name":"Jeremy Freudberg","email":"jeremyfreudberg@gmail.com","username":"jeremyfreudberg"},"date":"2019-08-21 16:47:37.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\n(1 comment)\n\nI understand the reasons to want to move away from the current process. Overall I\u0027m pretty neutral about it.\n\nIf we do end up sticking with the current process, then there is of course room for modest improvements within that process. So I\u0027ve left a suggestion detailing one possible improvement.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"cbdf9177d0f1feb4cb33924f2a88d29002685650","author":{"_account_id":1,"name":"James E. 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Blair wrote:\nSince many of the problems with the execution of the process for U were that the process was not followed\n\nPerhaps this document should clarify that the TC appointed coordinator must qualify for the role by ensuring they have read this document and have a history of being able to follow documented procedures?","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"01212e33fbed1386531519736e67d3dadc069c61","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-08-26 10:58:08.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1\n\nwe could then amend later to \"define the geographic region\" to \"x\" (x could be \"something the country\")","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"4a2702f3d9cd1b7446a12e3c1651741d507d34f7","author":{"_account_id":13995,"name":"Nate Johnston","email":"nate.johnston@redhat.com","username":"natejohnston"},"date":"2019-11-15 14:37:54.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\n+1 for Anita\u0027s suggestion.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"5930fca69020adac1e29564bebb174122d7df8a4","author":{"_account_id":1004,"name":"Mohammed Naser","email":"mnaser@vexxhost.com","username":"mnaser"},"date":"2019-11-15 16:12:19.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"e1875eb35f79bd72cf126dba82870aff071e797a","author":{"_account_id":1004,"name":"Mohammed Naser","email":"mnaser@vexxhost.com","username":"mnaser"},"date":"2019-11-15 16:12:57.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\ncorvus: I think you have a -1 on this patvh but I\u0027m struggling to see why, I think this change is good to land.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"7f9e35afc4ee531df9138c90227926b06c963d74","author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"date":"2019-11-18 16:29:51.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Workflow+1","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"9ef2fb14d064fb79dac51fdae6936059ac336ab3","author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"date":"2019-11-18 16:29:57.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1 -Workflow","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"3c3c95db000dd3c024fb78e38431dbdff802f3ea","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-12-04 11:55:37.000000000","message":"Abandoned\n\nI am closing this. We didn\u0027t get consensus in this proposition. We have discussed all together on alternative proposals, and we since then reached consensus on the next steps.\n\nIf the next step is not clear, we should reopen the case by then.\n\nThanks for the proposition!","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1}],"current_revision_number":1,"current_revision":"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4","revisions":{"d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4":{"kind":"REWORK","_number":1,"created":"2019-08-21 14:45:24.000000000","uploader":{"_account_id":1,"name":"James E. 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In particular, multiple election officials have\nmanipulated the lists according to their own preferences in\ncontravention of the process described here.\n\nUpdate the text to make this more clear.\n\nChange-Id: I62fc9b81aded6e1bc23fec9f3208d760fbf37cad\n","web_links":[{"name":"gitea","tooltip":"Open in GitWeb","url":"https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/commit/d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"}],"resolve_conflicts_web_links":[{"name":"gitea","tooltip":"Open in GitWeb","url":"https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/commit/d82ad9f9dc1b22fae6efbc73f2a2b69c156f83b4"}]},"branch":"refs/heads/master"}},"requirements":[],"submit_records":[],"submit_requirements":[]}