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The services need to\n \u003e run under 3.5 for those older branches, but tempest itself\n \u003e shouldn\u0027t really matter. Or is the concern that if we don\u0027t\n \u003e continue to support 3.5, the user may need to install a newer\n \u003e version of tempest to be able to run the tempest tests?\n\nIt actually needs to support otherwise we may break stable branch testing. It is not a new addition, it is to mention explicitly. While dropping the support of py3.5 in Stein and updating the Train runtime we have not removed the py3.5 support from Tempest or any of its plugin.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"bc1311c91bdc45c7837f9492140f6ad00e2de783","author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"date":"2019-09-09 11:45:13.000000000","message":"Topic set to documentation-update","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"a2763685c2b60dff8e55a8627c022ddfd7db16f7","author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"date":"2019-09-09 11:45:24.000000000","message":"Topic changed from documentation-update to documentation-change","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"09489849bccd6730d1b99bfb19d13d3b85044234","author":{"_account_id":10607,"name":"Alexandra Settle","email":"a.settle@outlook.com","username":"asettle"},"date":"2019-09-09 11:45:45.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1\n\nOther than Sean\u0027s nit, LGTM","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"0015c5554df4147266e46cba4259dcf79f8d9b3c","author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"date":"2019-09-12 09:09:43.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"198c66b82bfcb67949a08b5d207d0fb1df52aa72","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-09-12 12:14:27.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote-1\n\nTempest is testing. For all that matters, it could be in go or rust. That shouldn\u0027t have any impact on the ecosystem as a whole like service, clients, libraries, or deployment  projects.\n\nI am confused why we want an explicit TC overrule to say that tempest is an exception.\n\nTempest is master of its destiny. If tempest is using python, then it should follow the python guidelines. But it doesn\u0027t prevent ensuring stability for older releases if the project decides so.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"ca4ef193ca34f0f67aacc0d7932ca01ba2c23462","author":{"_account_id":11904,"name":"Sean McGinnis","email":"sean.mcginnis@gmail.com","username":"SeanM"},"date":"2019-09-12 13:17:23.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Code-Review-1\n\n\u003e Tempest is testing. For all that matters, it could be in go or\n \u003e rust. That shouldn\u0027t have any impact on the ecosystem as a whole\n \u003e like service, clients, libraries, or deployment  projects.\n \u003e \n \u003e I am confused why we want an explicit TC overrule to say that\n \u003e tempest is an exception.\n \u003e \n \u003e Tempest is master of its destiny. If tempest is using python, then\n \u003e it should follow the python guidelines. But it doesn\u0027t prevent\n \u003e ensuring stability for older releases if the project decides so.\n\nI agree with this position. We don\u0027t need to have governance level declarations for every project variation.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"caf0c712a67e8af724df75c79f3cde1a86014fd0","author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"date":"2019-09-17 14:47:41.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\n\u003e Tempest is testing. For all that matters, it could be in go or\n \u003e rust. That shouldn\u0027t have any impact on the ecosystem as a whole\n \u003e like service, clients, libraries, or deployment  projects.\n \u003e \n \u003e I am confused why we want an explicit TC overrule to say that\n \u003e tempest is an exception.\n \u003e \n \u003e Tempest is master of its destiny. If tempest is using python, then\n \u003e it should follow the python guidelines. But it doesn\u0027t prevent\n \u003e ensuring stability for older releases if the project decides so.\n\nAlong with OpenStack services official supported python version, if we add the officially supported version of OpenStack testing tools then it will help Tempest users to understand that Train version of Tempest can be run against python2.7 cloud.\n\nI am not seeing any harm to say about officially supported python version for the testing tool because it is not same as OpenStack services.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"b7776cad2985284710409c4ac6f7eb5a31af386a","author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"date":"2019-09-17 14:48:46.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\n\u003e \u003e Tempest is testing. For all that matters, it could be in go or\n \u003e \u003e rust. That shouldn\u0027t have any impact on the ecosystem as a whole\n \u003e \u003e like service, clients, libraries, or deployment  projects.\n \u003e \u003e\n \u003e \u003e I am confused why we want an explicit TC overrule to say that\n \u003e \u003e tempest is an exception.\n \u003e \u003e\n \u003e \u003e Tempest is master of its destiny. If tempest is using python,\n \u003e then\n \u003e \u003e it should follow the python guidelines. But it doesn\u0027t prevent\n \u003e \u003e ensuring stability for older releases if the project decides so.\n \u003e \n \u003e I agree with this position. We don\u0027t need to have governance level\n \u003e declarations for every project variation.\n\nThis is not each project variation this is about OpenStack testing tool supported versions along with services supported version.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"77e525cc759684a15651b1db9312ad3009c037ea","author":{"_account_id":4257,"name":"Zane Bitter","email":"zbitter@redhat.com","username":"zaneb"},"date":"2019-09-18 02:32:09.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote-1\n\nThis document contains the minimum set of Python versions that each project should gate against. There\u0027s nothing stopping projects from running other tests according to their own requirements, and no need to document those here IMHO.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"aaebefd0feadc01b29e38f1d58cbc636487e03b2","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-10-01 11:33:38.000000000","message":"Topic changed from documentation-change to formal-vote","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"79147e015f03e6c6ab72bf924116a3e24e8a692c","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-10-01 11:34:02.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\nI changed the topic, as this is effectively changing the policy, not clarifying it.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"e37553be92c0bf7db8d9e272e74aa41da22a5f3a","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-10-01 11:45:46.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\nI think we should abandon the topic until https://review.opendev.org/681203 is settled.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"c4e2b61fabff916e4c26fa2b8a5e9f856b601108","author":{"_account_id":10343,"name":"Jim Rollenhagen","email":"jim@jimrollenhagen.com","username":"jimrollenhagen"},"date":"2019-10-15 14:05:15.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote-1\n\n\u003e I think we should abandon the topic until https://review.opendev.org/681203\n \u003e is settled.\n\n++.\n\nI\u0027m -1 until we settle that out.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"60cfa49812fc5a863912711330318cfc385dbb19","author":{"_account_id":13995,"name":"Nate Johnston","email":"nate.johnston@redhat.com","username":"natejohnston"},"date":"2019-10-18 17:07:10.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote-1\n\n\u003e I think we should abandon the topic until https://review.opendev.org/681203\n \u003e is settled.\n\nI concur.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"63a1858353b164e906da657df7d28c87ecfa8388","author":{"_account_id":1004,"name":"Mohammed Naser","email":"mnaser@vexxhost.com","username":"mnaser"},"date":"2019-11-15 18:05:38.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1: Rollcall-Vote+1","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"b6f281eaa87862ee8d0434944b5158164a561ef7","author":{"_account_id":17068,"name":"Jean-Philippe Evrard","email":"openstack@a.spamming.party","username":"evrardjp"},"date":"2019-12-04 12:05:35.000000000","message":"Abandoned\n\nThis has too many dissenting votes. 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