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The problem was just choosing the names which I think should be solved by changing the \u0027Release Name Criteria\u0027 section only. TC should solve the pre-work/criteria to choose the name list and let the community select the final name.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":3},{"id":"c2d001f10005902f749b8b94c953a2bd6d4a1cb4","author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"date":"2019-12-05 10:39:15.000000000","message":"Patch Set 3:\n\n(1 comment)","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":3},{"id":"49e720b67607c0a0064e259f419abac47f0f45b7","author":{"_account_id":4257,"name":"Zane Bitter","email":"zbitter@redhat.com","username":"zaneb"},"date":"2019-12-05 19:16:41.000000000","message":"Patch Set 3:\n\n\u003e The voting system was not a problem\n\nYou\u0027re ignoring the fact that the electorate was not the OpenStack community (however you define it), but the Internet at large, and that anyone could vote as many times as they could find IP addresses, unless of course they were behind the same NAT as their colleague who had already voted, in which case they couldn\u0027t vote at all.\n\n\u003e The problem was just choosing the names\n\nThe problem was that the TC owns the release name and is accountable for making sure that neither the chosen name nor the process causes any geopolitical incidents, and therefore must exercise editorial control at some point, but this was not documented. Previously we did that at the name selection stage and it caused widespread complaints. This proposal flips things around so that the TC editorialises at the voting stage instead. We are not constrained to keep some part of the previous solution sacrosanct; we can solve it wherever in the process produces the best outcome.\n\nPeople are going to be unhappy with literally any solution to the problem, because many of them had come to believe that the Internet was entitled to make Its decision without any editorial component entering into it. This proposal at least has the virtue of not perpetuating that impression. It\u0027s almost too much to dream, but perhaps someday TC members will be able to spend their time doing something useful for OpenStack instead of burning their biggest single time commitment on rehashing procedures for choosing the release name.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":3},{"id":"5137780e7580b3a5f04212a95d7d6a6b6a69b2e3","author":{"_account_id":8099,"name":"Graham Hayes","email":"gr@ham.ie","username":"graham"},"date":"2019-12-05 19:51:25.000000000","message":"Patch Set 3: Rollcall-Vote+1","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":3},{"id":"d111c9bfeae954b97bf2d9c75e17aa71ec9abe84","author":{"_account_id":16708,"name":"Kendall Nelson","display_name":"Kendall (diablo_rojo)","email":"kennelson11@gmail.com","username":"kjnelson"},"date":"2019-12-09 18:52:09.000000000","message":"Patch Set 3: Rollcall-Vote+1 -Code-Review\n\nAll cleared up on phrasing now. 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