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The TC will represent the users of OpenStack. Local user groups are one manifestation/outgrowth of OpenStack\u0027s users and so are represented by the TC. The user group leaders even get special addition to the TC electorate so they have a say in who is representing them.\n\nWhat the old UC Charter mentioned about coordinating user groups is not something the TC would be taking on (the OSF staff were basically doing that on behalf of the old UC anyway, and would continue doing so, thus no need to incorporate it into the TC charter as a UC duty).","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"2b44b6fd58703d5de2e81558f94b278b1124d141","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":52,"context_line":""},{"line_number":53,"context_line":"The User Committee will therefore formally be a subcommittee of the Technical"},{"line_number":54,"context_line":"Committee, although the User Committee mission (representing and serving the"},{"line_number":55,"context_line":"user community of OpenStack) will be filled by all the TC members."},{"line_number":56,"context_line":""},{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Chair"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"-----"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_2be54ddd","line":55,"range":{"start_line":55,"start_character":0,"end_line":55,"end_character":27},"updated":"2020-06-09 17:17:21.000000000","message":"just to get more clarity, does \u0027user community of OpenStack\u0027 includes user-groups also or any other officially existing local groups than operators, users?","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"45390a61a6169e2d2bfb11aa68ff62b0d4970d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":52,"context_line":""},{"line_number":53,"context_line":"The User Committee will therefore formally be a subcommittee of the Technical"},{"line_number":54,"context_line":"Committee, although the User Committee mission (representing and serving the"},{"line_number":55,"context_line":"user community of OpenStack) will be filled by all the TC members."},{"line_number":56,"context_line":""},{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Chair"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"-----"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_445a1d83","line":55,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_bd11a4b2","updated":"2020-06-10 16:39:07.000000000","message":"yeah it is not clear to me also. in the current UC mission, it includes the local user-groups also so my confusion here also. can we make it clear here about that? something to mention that it does not include local user-groups.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"555ebe771996629ccf689ce107c912c9538bd4b1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":52,"context_line":""},{"line_number":53,"context_line":"The User Committee will therefore formally be a subcommittee of the Technical"},{"line_number":54,"context_line":"Committee, although the User Committee mission (representing and serving the"},{"line_number":55,"context_line":"user community of OpenStack) will be filled by all the TC members."},{"line_number":56,"context_line":""},{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Chair"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"-----"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_98964aef","line":55,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_da4f2868","updated":"2020-06-11 13:37:23.000000000","message":"Yeah, I agree. we are not mentioning them as specific duty as old UC charter does so i think good enough. and as you mentioned and in ML also OSF staff take care of that part so we are good anyways.\n\nthanks","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":13995,"name":"Nate Johnston","email":"nate.johnston@redhat.com","username":"natejohnston"},"change_message_id":"341a0f5c54f256262547d7aee3c596caa60f483f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Chair"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"-----"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":""},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"The bylaws require a chair of the User Committee to be designated. 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I read that now and that is nice idea.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"change_message_id":"674533ed3a432ddcffa6852e13441ed630471744","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":62,"context_line":"the Technical Committee will pick."},{"line_number":63,"context_line":""},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"The chair of the User Committee is a honorific title, they do not fill any"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"specific duty."},{"line_number":66,"context_line":""},{"line_number":67,"context_line":"Active User Contributor"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"-----------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_3f98c873","line":65,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_8401d53c","updated":"2020-06-11 10:32:25.000000000","message":"Ghanshyam: the TC chair is not from the UC. The UC chair is the TC chair. See latest patchset.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"change_message_id":"39639c737fbc4a3ae5db548c96d901184867c289","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":62,"context_line":"the Technical Committee will pick."},{"line_number":63,"context_line":""},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"The chair of the User Committee is a honorific title, they do not fill any"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"specific duty."},{"line_number":66,"context_line":""},{"line_number":67,"context_line":"Active User Contributor"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"-----------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_ea9065f0","line":65,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_9d1660a7","updated":"2020-06-10 09:12:57.000000000","message":"I\u0027ll rework it so that the TC chair is one of the 5.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"45390a61a6169e2d2bfb11aa68ff62b0d4970d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":62,"context_line":"the Technical Committee will pick."},{"line_number":63,"context_line":""},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"The chair of the User Committee is a honorific title, they do not fill any"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"specific duty."},{"line_number":66,"context_line":""},{"line_number":67,"context_line":"Active User Contributor"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"-----------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_8401d53c","line":65,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_ea9065f0","updated":"2020-06-10 16:39:07.000000000","message":"humm I am not 100% sure if that is the right thing to restrict the TC chair to be from UC. does \u0027nominating a member\u0027 in by-law means member of UC or UC can choose their chair from outside also? If later then TC chair out of 5 members also work.\n\n\"(c) The User Committee shall determine the procedures for nominating a member to become the chair of the User Committee.\"","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"2b44b6fd58703d5de2e81558f94b278b1124d141","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":69,"context_line":""},{"line_number":70,"context_line":"The bylaws define \u0027Active User Contributors\u0027 as being the electorate to elect"},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"the User Committee. 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As UC members are from TC members only and ATC elect them so calling AUC and ATC same things can be very clear.\n\n[1]https://www.openstack.org/legal/user-committee-member-policy/","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":5263,"name":"Jeremy Stanley","display_name":"fungi","email":"fungi@yuggoth.org","username":"fungi","status":"missing, presumed fed"},"change_message_id":"ad3ad36e7339a9fcd21009e31c59bf60955b17f5","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":69,"context_line":""},{"line_number":70,"context_line":"The bylaws define \u0027Active User Contributors\u0027 as being the electorate to elect"},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"the User Committee. 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It would be doable, but ultimately pointless additional work as the \"official UC\" only exists on paper anyway (it\u0027s now just a function of the TC).","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"45390a61a6169e2d2bfb11aa68ff62b0d4970d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":69,"context_line":""},{"line_number":70,"context_line":"The bylaws define \u0027Active User Contributors\u0027 as being the electorate to elect"},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"the User Committee. 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But keeping AUC as TC solve all situation smoothly. so +1 on making AUC as elected TC only.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":1131,"name":"Brian Haley","email":"haleyb.dev@gmail.com","username":"brian-haley"},"change_message_id":"8fbf36b857a81c90e92176216318604b3a7fda91","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":71,"context_line":"the User Committee. Since the TC members now elect the UC members, starting on"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":"August 1st, 2020, Active User Contributors are the elected TC members."},{"line_number":73,"context_line":""},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"The AUC electorate (previously used to elect the separate UC body) will be"},{"line_number":75,"context_line":"included in the electorate electing the Technical Committee. 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If there\u0027s a TC meeting and more than half the \"UC members\" of the TC are present, then it\u0027s also officially a \"UC meeting\" for purposes of satisfying the bylaws.\n\nRemember, the ultimate goal of this change is that we never have to talk or think about the \"UC\" ever again, except once a cycle picking five TC members who volunteer to put their name on an unused list of \"UC members\" and having them select a \"UC chair\" to tell the board about.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"2b44b6fd58703d5de2e81558f94b278b1124d141","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":79,"context_line":"Meetings"},{"line_number":80,"context_line":"--------"},{"line_number":81,"context_line":""},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"The User Committee is considered meeting every time the Technical Committee"},{"line_number":83,"context_line":"meets and at least three of the User Committee members are present."},{"line_number":84,"context_line":""},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"Amendments to this charter"},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"--------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_eb76b50c","line":83,"range":{"start_line":82,"start_character":0,"end_line":83,"end_character":67},"updated":"2020-06-09 17:17:21.000000000","message":"ditto. instead of separate meeting, we should just call TC meeting as UC meeting. doing separate meeting create more confusion and sync issue between these two but now single group.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"45390a61a6169e2d2bfb11aa68ff62b0d4970d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":80,"context_line":"--------"},{"line_number":81,"context_line":""},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"The User Committee is considered meeting every time the Technical Committee"},{"line_number":83,"context_line":"meets and at least three of the User Committee members are present."},{"line_number":84,"context_line":""},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"Amendments to this charter"},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"--------------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ff570b3c_df01da06","line":83,"in_reply_to":"ff570b3c_dd10d8ab","updated":"2020-06-10 16:39:07.000000000","message":"yeah, agree with that. I think that is all things we have to do to save the costly by-law changes. \n\nI misread that as a separate meeting.","commit_id":"38c5ff50ad4fc575c1f9b57fa459f96c0c97ec39"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"555ebe771996629ccf689ce107c912c9538bd4b1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":47,"context_line":"Membership"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"----------"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":""},{"line_number":50,"context_line":"The User Committee consists of five members: the Technical Committee chair and"},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"four other members, elected from within the current Technical Committee"},{"line_number":52,"context_line":"membership. 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