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A few grammar points and some suggestions for clarifications noted inline.","commit_id":"180d8a8ffbcc6e09491a22905e3a99e3a46d6a85"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"a8eee4faa7eaacbe85388ff2c7b075656925601d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":3,"id":"b588b226_decbc2c8","updated":"2022-05-05 17:01:01.000000000","message":"thanks Slawek for working on it, lgtm.","commit_id":"180d8a8ffbcc6e09491a22905e3a99e3a46d6a85"},{"author":{"_account_id":16708,"name":"Kendall Nelson","display_name":"Kendall (diablo_rojo)","email":"kennelson11@gmail.com","username":"kjnelson"},"change_message_id":"913ef3a71388301a6bcd48802c24ea6941b39ac4","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":4,"id":"c5fcab04_6dea312c","updated":"2022-05-12 11:37:57.000000000","message":"Aside from all Brian\u0027s nits. It looks good to me. 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I\u0027m not sure why we\u0027d have this \"inactive\" designation for less than one cycle. Or am I misunderstanding?","commit_id":"0cf2e15642cbad77728bc24c191a38cf72525d7b"},{"author":{"_account_id":16465,"name":"Kristi Nikolla","email":"knikolla@bu.edu","username":"knikolla"},"change_message_id":"e4dd42da625246ec513c0ca8d5096feda5f53434","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":5,"id":"516d5106_02aab49e","updated":"2022-05-16 15:05:42.000000000","message":"I understand the motivation and need for labeling projects as emerging and agree with the terms, structure, and conditions.\n\nI do not see a lot of value with the current definition of \"inactive\". Please see comments inline.","commit_id":"0cf2e15642cbad77728bc24c191a38cf72525d7b"},{"author":{"_account_id":7198,"name":"Jay Bryant","email":"jungleboyj@electronicjungle.net","username":"jsbryant"},"change_message_id":"c6cad0fd907dcf2aa79613043c20bff95d159dd1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"e8071db1_80c9b2cf","updated":"2022-05-26 16:24:42.000000000","message":"I agree with the approach.  Have some wording comments.  Looks good otherwise.","commit_id":"a840d04c65ba4437bdcab321c3ab89f6c3ec4391"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"e71bda09b91bdb5557a0f4617cbd0035254a9d25","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"2650f26e_5e672dca","updated":"2022-05-24 21:55:40.000000000","message":"thanks. lgtm. \u0027Emerging Technology\u0027 sounds better terminology","commit_id":"a840d04c65ba4437bdcab321c3ab89f6c3ec4391"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"ce9250a2b0c9b7a501078ef6409107867f29f4b8","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":7,"id":"a4b011c2_ba038d2c","updated":"2022-05-27 13:53:40.000000000","message":"Content looks good now, one more wording tweak if you have a chance.","commit_id":"b769b1c27760fffe3b39ebc965c27880ae0fc6b7"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"1464978227c73ff5bdd03104fe075c082ba2027d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":9,"id":"52ee69e8_1ba6c26e","updated":"2022-05-27 16:36:47.000000000","message":"One tiny typo tweak from me, but this is good now, IMHO.","commit_id":"fc18913cae47dfa0e4fbc5db6dc3fef68f47a33b"},{"author":{"_account_id":5314,"name":"Brian Rosmaita","email":"rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com","username":"brian-rosmaita"},"change_message_id":"136f6467c68c79dfaf327eb0a63974fff43e9de7","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":9,"id":"d549c2fd_faff0573","updated":"2022-05-28 21:32:50.000000000","message":"Question inline about the Emerging Technology timeline (it seems kind of ambiguous to me).","commit_id":"fc18913cae47dfa0e4fbc5db6dc3fef68f47a33b"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"81e9f73bcb5fc8dfdaa7ab0b9167cfdfc63ccd5d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":9,"id":"e9a3fb51_cb431dba","updated":"2022-05-27 17:38:51.000000000","message":"lgtm","commit_id":"fc18913cae47dfa0e4fbc5db6dc3fef68f47a33b"},{"author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"change_message_id":"db57036d327ea7ea7b03881df1c59b1248c5941e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":10,"id":"3b2df3e9_8dfc2d04","updated":"2022-05-30 11:48:25.000000000","message":"I like it, and I like the \"emerging technology\" name too. \"Preview\" assumed it was easy to try out and it rarely was.","commit_id":"361a040d1da8291d6960709dd00df0d3b97443df"},{"author":{"_account_id":5314,"name":"Brian Rosmaita","email":"rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com","username":"brian-rosmaita"},"change_message_id":"d2ab8bf38b7bf7b70c99ad2f51682d3e8638e8e2","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":10,"id":"0278adae_2e53af43","updated":"2022-05-31 14:48:06.000000000","message":"Typo noted inline.  I agree with you that there\u0027s no sense splitting the document if there\u0027s widespread agreement about what you say about inactive projects.","commit_id":"361a040d1da8291d6960709dd00df0d3b97443df"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"09f74a8d915baea76320282da3bf6914678dd241","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":11,"id":"acb3ebb9_d9132ee4","updated":"2022-06-01 14:52:49.000000000","message":"I think I\u0027m good with the content here, but I think maybe softening the words on what happens when we retire to match what happens if an emerging project takes too long would be a good idea. And a couple more clarity suggestions.","commit_id":"5b89930d9a00b6373c013e5a6651ec42e77a0611"},{"author":{"_account_id":5314,"name":"Brian Rosmaita","email":"rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com","username":"brian-rosmaita"},"change_message_id":"3060845ee034e7599afeaac14ffccac0cc5f5cd5","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":12,"id":"37ef5ced_cd844f7f","updated":"2022-06-10 14:05:52.000000000","message":"Typo noted inline.  Content is fine, so voting +1.","commit_id":"71fd15b52e21fbab9966adbe48f51b92f38a8e9b"},{"author":{"_account_id":16465,"name":"Kristi Nikolla","email":"knikolla@bu.edu","username":"knikolla"},"change_message_id":"82e0662fca52eb98d364b77d1cc51fd33b859a1f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":13,"id":"48081b94_ba8fb5f7","updated":"2022-06-16 14:37:36.000000000","message":"Agree with the content and direction.","commit_id":"cf340d6181180ad4cd02422163470eedf4467856"},{"author":{"_account_id":2033,"name":"Belmiro Moreira","email":"moreira.belmiro.email.lists@gmail.com","username":"moreira-belmiro-email-lists"},"change_message_id":"85f6d4c256409f2ef925b49d844e8dfff99d5e5c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":13,"id":"bf446bfa_9ae7573e","updated":"2022-06-22 15:00:08.000000000","message":"LGTM. Thanks Slawek for proposing it.","commit_id":"cf340d6181180ad4cd02422163470eedf4467856"},{"author":{"_account_id":5314,"name":"Brian Rosmaita","email":"rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com","username":"brian-rosmaita"},"change_message_id":"8d4915a90149ea30171a4998dadbb67c6bfaf11b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":13,"id":"295fbacc_4df15458","updated":"2022-06-16 15:44:04.000000000","message":"Revisions LGTM.","commit_id":"cf340d6181180ad4cd02422163470eedf4467856"},{"author":{"_account_id":7198,"name":"Jay Bryant","email":"jungleboyj@electronicjungle.net","username":"jsbryant"},"change_message_id":"4f6f9406edd5d2952ce01522a27a6dbbfc93751f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":13,"id":"3ee90894_7c9d491d","updated":"2022-06-16 16:27:15.000000000","message":"Thank you for addressing my comments.","commit_id":"cf340d6181180ad4cd02422163470eedf4467856"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"63367ae2b65d6b5d8518f2cfa83b287157c6b986","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":13,"id":"860b9d8a_80cbba39","updated":"2022-06-24 00:51:55.000000000","message":"Thanks Slawek for working on this. 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Are you saying we\u0027d never release a project as \"inactive\"? What it sounds like here is that we would mark them as inactive at the beginning of the cycle and if they haven\u0027t fixed things by the release, we drop them to retired. Is that the intent?\n\nI had assumed this was our way of providing one or two releases of an inactive project (marked as such) where we\u0027re just honest with consumers about the lack of activity (and potential quality) before we fully retired. This off-ramp would provide time for someone to put together a new contribution strategy (which can take months for approval) as well as to find alternatives or execute an exit strategy if nobody ever shows up.\n\nI guess my point is, I\u0027m not sure the point of marking a project as \"inactive\" internally really matters if it\u0027s not released with such a designation.","commit_id":"0cf2e15642cbad77728bc24c191a38cf72525d7b"},{"author":{"_account_id":11975,"name":"Slawek Kaplonski","email":"skaplons@redhat.com","username":"slaweq"},"change_message_id":"a469bed676ca8f04446fc9a1318b9e8f41352069","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":80,"context_line":"planning."},{"line_number":81,"context_line":"In case when ``inactive`` project will not become ``active`` within that"},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"timeframe, TC will retire it before final release in the release cycle so there"},{"line_number":83,"context_line":"will be no new releases of such project."},{"line_number":84,"context_line":""},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"Tracking"},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":5,"id":"f381f6e2_1ba398b9","line":83,"in_reply_to":"00c688c0_b4a9380d","updated":"2022-05-18 08:00:13.000000000","message":"Intention here was that project enters that \"inactive\" state when:\n\n    are not able to do the mandatory activities, such as release, fix testing, review incoming code, etc.\n\nSo IMHO that implies that we shouldn\u0027t make release of such project if it has e.g. broken CI and there is nobody who wants to fix it. We want to avoid the case as we had in last cycle that we had to force merge some fixes in some projects which had broken CI just before release.","commit_id":"0cf2e15642cbad77728bc24c191a38cf72525d7b"},{"author":{"_account_id":16465,"name":"Kristi Nikolla","email":"knikolla@bu.edu","username":"knikolla"},"change_message_id":"e4dd42da625246ec513c0ca8d5096feda5f53434","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":80,"context_line":"planning."},{"line_number":81,"context_line":"In case when ``inactive`` project will not become ``active`` within that"},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"timeframe, TC will retire it before final release in the release cycle so there"},{"line_number":83,"context_line":"will be no new releases of such project."},{"line_number":84,"context_line":""},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"Tracking"},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":5,"id":"00c688c0_b4a9380d","line":83,"in_reply_to":"2dee3b30_0a2a1474","updated":"2022-05-16 15:05:42.000000000","message":"I think the within one cycle time frame is too short. An inactive project usually comes to our attention as such during the elections period (when no one volunteers) or when there are problems with the release/jobs. Realistically, that is too close to release for anyone to be able to accomplish anything, even if they notice the precarious situation of the project. Which they won\u0027t, and I bet most people will only realize what happened when the project is dropped and not release for that cycle.\n\nI agree with Dan and suggest that this label would only provide value if we allow for 2 cycles. 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I did some changes to have different states for new and existing projects.","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"dda544af8b27f70d7391ba4eb939b942edc3daa0","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":34,"context_line":"If a new project wants to become an official OpenStack project, but it does not"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"fit all requirements for new official projects (see"},{"line_number":36,"context_line":":doc:`new-projects-requirements` for details) TC can consider to add such"},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"project to the OpenStack projects as ``Technical Preview``."},{"line_number":38,"context_line":""},{"line_number":39,"context_line":"For existing projects which became inactive due to lack of maintainers and are"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"not able to do the mandatory activities, such as release, fix testing, review"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"1fe26cb3_5209ef63","line":37,"in_reply_to":"4b8b9e12_f0756ce6","updated":"2022-05-13 17:59:52.000000000","message":"Yep, emerging would only be relevant for new projects, which I think is also the case for \"preview\" since that implies new-and-coming-soon as well.","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"02618d5c86987652020a242135d87f94fab9c348","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":34,"context_line":"If a new project wants to become an official OpenStack project, but it does not"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"fit all requirements for new official projects (see"},{"line_number":36,"context_line":":doc:`new-projects-requirements` for details) TC can consider to add such"},{"line_number":37,"context_line":"project to the OpenStack projects as ``Technical Preview``."},{"line_number":38,"context_line":""},{"line_number":39,"context_line":"For existing projects which became inactive due to lack of maintainers and are"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"not able to do the mandatory activities, such as release, fix testing, review"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"4b8b9e12_f0756ce6","line":37,"in_reply_to":"d1974d87_5334a795","updated":"2022-05-13 17:15:43.000000000","message":"\u0027Emerging\u0027 sounds good to me but for new projects and we are covering existing projects also who went in-active or so. Emerging seems for such existing in-acgtive projects seems not suitable. But overall i agree with your point here and let\u0027s try some other name here?","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"3655af151bcee37c132c025781e513b5303d312f","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":42,"context_line":"Preview``, try to solve the problem if we can but keep it in the official"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":"OpenStack projects list instead of deprecating and removing it immediately (see"},{"line_number":44,"context_line":":doc:`dropping-projects` for more details)."},{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":""},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"Exit criteria"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"25a280c3_5592e5a2","line":45,"updated":"2022-05-11 16:14:40.000000000","message":"Moving backwards from \"A full project\" to \"tech preview\" is strange, since it\u0027s not a \"preview\" if you already had that project fully supported and the only reason it is now a \"preview\" is because it *hasn\u0027t* gotten any new stuff in a while :)\n\n\"Emerging\" doesn\u0027t work for those things either, granted, but maybe we just need two names or something.","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"02618d5c86987652020a242135d87f94fab9c348","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":42,"context_line":"Preview``, try to solve the problem if we can but keep it in the official"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":"OpenStack projects list instead of deprecating and removing it immediately (see"},{"line_number":44,"context_line":":doc:`dropping-projects` for more details)."},{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":""},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"Exit criteria"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"cf4cab68_603c0a1a","line":45,"in_reply_to":"25a280c3_5592e5a2","updated":"2022-05-13 17:15:43.000000000","message":"right, I wrote the same comment about \u0027emerging\u0027 above before reading it.\n\nSo the idea here is to target a project who has a lot of incoming requests/features and it is slow to merge the things there or in-active overall. The projects that do not fall under this category are:\n- they are mature and might not need many new features like Oslo, other libs etc\n- less incoming changes so not merging things there does not mean that are in-active\n\nDoes that sound reasonable to target such projects? if so maybe we can clarify those in this document.","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":11975,"name":"Slawek Kaplonski","email":"skaplons@redhat.com","username":"slaweq"},"change_message_id":"b65e2a61f437eded7de6112252599ea07f93a3a3","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":42,"context_line":"Preview``, try to solve the problem if we can but keep it in the official"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":"OpenStack projects list instead of deprecating and removing it immediately (see"},{"line_number":44,"context_line":":doc:`dropping-projects` for more details)."},{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":""},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"Exit criteria"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"e507bee4_c3918a69","line":45,"in_reply_to":"8b9852f4_dfa6010f","updated":"2022-05-16 09:40:05.000000000","message":"see my comment above","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"dda544af8b27f70d7391ba4eb939b942edc3daa0","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":42,"context_line":"Preview``, try to solve the problem if we can but keep it in the official"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":"OpenStack projects list instead of deprecating and removing it immediately (see"},{"line_number":44,"context_line":":doc:`dropping-projects` for more details)."},{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":""},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"Exit criteria"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"8b9852f4_dfa6010f","line":45,"in_reply_to":"cf4cab68_603c0a1a","updated":"2022-05-13 17:59:52.000000000","message":"I dunno, you wouldn\u0027t move Oslo to tech-preview or Emerging for that reason right? I thought the goal here was to move active projects into another state to basically provide an off-ramp for later retirement *or* to indicate that the project is almost not supported anymore. That\u0027s a little different than \"fully supported but doesn\u0027t process a high volume of reviews.\" I say that because all of require oslo to work and if something broke, someone would have to fix it, which is not the case for another project where the users are the ... users.\n\nSo, I\u0027m not sure exactly what you\u0027re saying, but I think we\u0027re probably in agreement that there should be some category of project which effectively means \"Well, this was supported, but it\u0027s kinda being ignored right now and probably will be retired soon.\" Right? 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Dropped like you never existed?\n\nFor the existing projects, it seems like a very strange progression to go \"Fully Supported\" -\u003e \"Preview\" -\u003e \"Retired\" ... to me, anyway.","commit_id":"3e89034759d6d2be76168646ee6b8e67b3aa2b52"},{"author":{"_account_id":11975,"name":"Slawek Kaplonski","email":"skaplons@redhat.com","username":"slaweq"},"change_message_id":"b65e2a61f437eded7de6112252599ea07f93a3a3","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":72,"context_line":"An existing project must be reinstated as an active OpenStack project before the"},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"final release of the cycle they entered the ``Technical Preview``. 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