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{"/PATCHSET_LEVEL":[{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"ff912f4f926dceceb3211bb1114b579ae32657fe","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"4379c82f_5ac154dc","updated":"2022-09-26 07:43:48.000000000","message":"\u003e due to her lack of code activity\n\nIt\u0027s even not about code activity. It\u0027s about any visible activity that can be taken in account. That includes code reviews, release management. You said that they does participate in community engagement, but there\u0027re no visible results of this either (as no new contributors were seen in a while).\n\n\nGiven that you see them as the best candidate for PTL, I think will just abstain from voting.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"08ff5f1a99f8500d1edd40e37b40e93aa2f4bcfb","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"c356c082_8f1e4a95","updated":"2022-10-07 04:00:22.000000000","message":"@Feng @hongbin, we discussed it in TC meeting today. First if any one taking PTL responsibility I think they should participate in some of the contribution/release activities. We have not seen any participation from Feng for past couple of cycles. \n\n@Feng, if you can tell us your motivation behind PTL role and any future plan if you will be committed to participate in contribution activity of Zun project deliverables?","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"385780be85ee70d936ac7c6ed506b02dcf965e35","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"af0fe232_f086c8c5","updated":"2022-10-07 04:54:07.000000000","message":"@Feng, @hongbin, another option is to move Zun project to DPL (distributed project leadership) model - https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20200803-distributed-project-leadership.html\n\nThere are many other project adopted the DPL model, for example, oslo, mistral - https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/ef0291aaeea92917153837bc715b58003f58f359/reference/projects.yaml#L732 ","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"45e1d187842d581a0438866e73de226be10b3bba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"6aca90de_13a68465","updated":"2022-10-09 17:44:41.000000000","message":"I apologize, I forgot to post my draft comment from Friday. \n\nI am in favor of appointing hongbin as PTL, I think it\u0027s the best option we have now.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"6c7a2b28a50cc5e637d69bcd86277259a5ee4858","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"a19a8ba6_fb755d79","updated":"2022-09-30 18:55:44.000000000","message":"I have concerns about appointing a PTL that has no visible upstream contributions of any kind during the preceeding cycle. I also choose to abstain. ","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"f961d1c0d01bfbf9962482dc4302c965e082e9e9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"ae84544d_20a8c111","updated":"2022-09-22 20:26:39.000000000","message":"Sorry, can\u0027t vote positive here because for the whole cadence (since Xena) the PTL have made [1]:\n1. no commits were made to the repo\n2. no reviews were made except to the releases\n3. no releases (approving auto-suggested releases was the only activity)\n\nAt the same time I see hongbin034@gmail.com being active core reviewer and even pushes some patches. I would suggest reaching him to gain interest in performing PTL role.\n\n[1] https://www.stackalytics.io/?user_id\u003dfeng-shengqin\u0026metric\u003dmarks\u0026release\u003dxena","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":11536,"name":"hongbin","email":"hongbin034@gmail.com","username":"hongbin"},"change_message_id":"541ae6c01ac26d7891f04838091b1d7a81c4b66c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"b3aee387_674ba614","updated":"2022-09-23 13:49:17.000000000","message":"Thanks for raising the discussion.\n\nI fully support Shengqing as the Zun PTL. She has been taking the PTL roles for the last a few years. I am working with her to maintain this project. I am taking the bug fixes and maintaining the CI. She is working on other aspects, such as advertising the project to Chinese community. She also helped me to vote on releases whenever it needs PTL votes.\n\nI believe she will be a good PTL for Zun as always. I will continue to work with her to maintain this project.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"6087bcc30e7e675cd4437f9d5fdb3d9f6a46f153","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"a9c34003_5c82bbb0","in_reply_to":"131d6541_05945eb1","updated":"2022-09-23 08:10:30.000000000","message":"Yeah, but it can\u0027t last forever this way...","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"7c87ba4f3ad23b9f01867d1c2165a7a2ccda8ec6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"0627f810_4d0ae29b","in_reply_to":"84853079_0fc374f2","updated":"2022-09-23 18:25:00.000000000","message":"That is good idea and it will be great if we can get help from others and helping hongbin here.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"7c87ba4f3ad23b9f01867d1c2165a7a2ccda8ec6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"c85cb935_30a682d8","in_reply_to":"84853079_0fc374f2","updated":"2022-09-23 18:25:00.000000000","message":"That is good idea and it will be great if we can get help from others and helping hongbin here.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"7c87ba4f3ad23b9f01867d1c2165a7a2ccda8ec6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"f8bd7dc1_2dbb5d40","in_reply_to":"84853079_0fc374f2","updated":"2022-09-23 18:25:00.000000000","message":"That is good idea and it will be great if we can get help from others and helping hongbin here.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":11536,"name":"hongbin","email":"hongbin034@gmail.com","username":"hongbin"},"change_message_id":"48278cd73813b2b7ee8e8c510865408d015644ed","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"24e127e6_6c5c6446","in_reply_to":"8b74b951_5cf1d365","updated":"2022-09-25 09:51:22.000000000","message":"I still think Shengqing is the best Zun PTL candidate. There is no other candidate in the community who is proven to have same level of contribution as Shengqing did [1].\n\nI understand that it makes the nomination process complicated due to her lack of code activity, and thanks for addressing it. I still think it is a good idea to appoint Shengqing as PTL. If code activity is a blocker, you can appoint me as plan B. \n\n[1] https://github.com/openstack/zun/graphs/contributors","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"21955af144afb25f139ea23f699d36215ccb0b0e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"84853079_0fc374f2","in_reply_to":"a9c34003_5c82bbb0","updated":"2022-09-23 08:12:29.000000000","message":"Maybe we should try reaching community to gather interest of helping out with project maintenance and leadership.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"06e71efdd253dc3eed7440fa39983616c08fb9db","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"131d6541_05945eb1","in_reply_to":"ae84544d_20a8c111","updated":"2022-09-22 20:29:03.000000000","message":"we have been in same situation in past cycle or two and hongbin was agree to have Feng as PTL.\n\nBut this is good point to get his opinion also for this cycle too. adding him in review.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":11536,"name":"hongbin","email":"hongbin034@gmail.com","username":"hongbin"},"change_message_id":"2a26304c95a6d093123ca2edc9d6866f122a5522","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"bbce7a30_644996e5","in_reply_to":"af0fe232_f086c8c5","updated":"2022-10-07 10:01:17.000000000","message":"My position is unchanged. The best option is to appoint @Shengqing as PTL. If it doesn\u0027t work out, TC can appoint me as PTL instead.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"a8f3432132ba11eea25a4c248854263307dc48c1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"8b74b951_5cf1d365","in_reply_to":"b3aee387_674ba614","updated":"2022-09-23 18:27:53.000000000","message":"Thanks hongbin for clarifying the situation again. I am ok to have Shengqing as PTL but maybe from next time if she can be involved in some of the code activity then it will good for project as well as for nomination things.\n\nAlso, Dmitriy has good idea on asking community (including Zun users) to help in maintaining it and it will be nice to see if anyone join. What you think of it? if ok for you it will be good to have such communication from you side.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"3484c59481c2ac167ad4f40cff6cd5cad659be18","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"d1b0a786_5ee93c39","in_reply_to":"bbce7a30_644996e5","updated":"2022-10-08 00:38:12.000000000","message":"@hongbin, thanks. I think that will be best way forward here to appoint you as PTL and in future Shengqing can be active in project and share the responsibility.\n\nLet me propose the patch.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"45e1d187842d581a0438866e73de226be10b3bba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"73b55e03_80a01663","in_reply_to":"bbce7a30_644996e5","updated":"2022-10-09 17:44:41.000000000","message":"PTL is a position with specific responsibilities. For example, running a weekly meeting: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ptl.html#recurrent-tasks\n\nThere has been no meeting for Zun in two years. @Shengqing is not even here to do the usual and customary +1 of the PR to indicate willingness to be the PTL.\n\nMost TC members will be unwilling to vote to appoint someone PTL who is unwilling to perform the responsibilities of a PTL; even for a small project.","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"f2e63ccb37acafff45e1a631669a93ce6c35cb3e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"c00bbc81_fec1e3a9","in_reply_to":"d1b0a786_5ee93c39","updated":"2022-10-08 00:58:31.000000000","message":"proposed the patch for hongbin as PTL https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/860759","commit_id":"7fbff5f51dbbe52ae6a20d4ed3d798c3bb05f3be"}]}