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That is best way we can do and operator can know what all things to upgrade along with this service release.","commit_id":"00ecddfaa585762dfa5f9430a0adc460330108e2"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"560e85cbcc15e732505f7ea4ea474232d916168a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":163,"context_line":"#. 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So good we clarify that explicitly now!","commit_id":"00ecddfaa585762dfa5f9430a0adc460330108e2"},{"author":{"_account_id":5263,"name":"Jeremy Stanley","display_name":"fungi","email":"fungi@yuggoth.org","username":"fungi","status":"missing, presumed fed"},"change_message_id":"6a7d70f1dbc78669106668bfb09623a36ca12809","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":148,"context_line":"Along with testing the Distros version defined in testing runtime, projects need to"},{"line_number":149,"context_line":"take care of the supported upgrade path also. 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Delayed availability of newer OpenStack features until the operating system upgrade is completed sounds like an acceptable situation (so long as the features which were in use with the old version continue to work, of course).","commit_id":"c1f76b53c6a93938356b34d6bab678b976ab0163"},{"author":{"_account_id":5263,"name":"Jeremy Stanley","display_name":"fungi","email":"fungi@yuggoth.org","username":"fungi","status":"missing, presumed fed"},"change_message_id":"16ffb8eba2fe7495dc339d632a77d8ae1c9dd6b7","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":148,"context_line":"Along with testing the Distros version defined in testing runtime, projects need to"},{"line_number":149,"context_line":"take care of the supported upgrade path also. 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Or just that it\u0027s okay they\u0027re not able to take full advantage of new features in Neutron 2023.1/Antelope which may depend on the newer OVN in Ubuntu Jammy (22.04 LTS), but their deployment will still keep working for Neutron 2023.1/Antelope on Ubuntu Focal (20.04 LTS) with the Neutron configuration they used in Zed?","commit_id":"c1f76b53c6a93938356b34d6bab678b976ab0163"},{"author":{"_account_id":11975,"name":"Slawek Kaplonski","email":"skaplons@redhat.com","username":"slaweq"},"change_message_id":"1c6034890ea606c34299c82de3811796c1e7ea4b","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":147,"context_line":""},{"line_number":148,"context_line":"Along with testing the Distros version defined in testing runtime, projects need to"},{"line_number":149,"context_line":"take care of the supported upgrade path also. 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Example:\n\n\n+------+------+------+--------+--------+--------+\n|      | Yoga | Zed  | 2023.1 | 2023.2 | 2024.1 |\n+------+------+------+--------+--------+--------+\n|20.04 | Yes  | Yes  | Yes    | No     | No     |\n+------+------+------+--------+--------+--------+\n|22.04 | No   | Yes  | Yes    | Yes    | ???    |\n+------+------+------+--------+--------+--------+\n\nSo what I meant, is that we are dropping old stuff on non-SLURP and adding new stuff on SLURP. But both are changes in PTI.\n\nAlso, this table makes me thing if we should drift release schedule a bit to allow Ubuntu get released before OpenStack to make it part of the deal or switch what we say SLURP is and what non-SLURP, as otherwise we might stuck with platform a bit more then we want to.","commit_id":"f02b54e15470410a0af5450fe4e463fe6311b120"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"53c9acfc254bedeb88cd0de6623bcfec5b0837b7","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":193,"context_line":""},{"line_number":194,"context_line":"   Example: :ref:`2023.1 cycle testing runtime \u003c2023-1-testing-runtime\u003e`"},{"line_number":195,"context_line":""},{"line_number":196,"context_line":"#. 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I will fix it, thanks for catching it.\n\nWith that I feel like we should mention explicitly about what (distro new version) is mainly/latest supported/tested in SLURP release (if we are supporting two version) and what (distro old version) we are keeping for smooth upgrade from previous release (N-1 -\u003e N) upgrade. That way it will be explicitly known that SLURP keeping distro old version for smooth upgrade from N-1 to N and not for N -\u003e N+1 upgrade. This distro old version will be removed in next non-SLURP release.\n\nI will add it in testing runtime to be explicit about it.","commit_id":"f02b54e15470410a0af5450fe4e463fe6311b120"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"7a319ef49df2b55b3262f145f6c150f52397648e","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":193,"context_line":""},{"line_number":194,"context_line":"   Example: :ref:`2023.1 cycle testing runtime \u003c2023-1-testing-runtime\u003e`"},{"line_number":195,"context_line":""},{"line_number":196,"context_line":"#. Try not to change the testing runtime in non-SLURP release (distro or python"},{"line_number":197,"context_line":"   version) as much as we can unless there is any exception of non-testable old"},{"line_number":198,"context_line":"   versions. 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