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{"/COMMIT_MSG":[{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"3da83b29b70c0b2c74014c0662957bad44eec8a4","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":9,"context_line":"There are several reasons why project versions worth to have main focus"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":"comparing to openstack versions."},{"line_number":11,"context_line":""},{"line_number":12,"context_line":"1. Under release notes having OpenStack version first is quite confusing"},{"line_number":13,"context_line":"aspart of the content there are differences between minor versions."},{"line_number":14,"context_line":"For example this would be quite hard to read:"},{"line_number":15,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.0)"},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.1)"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.1.0)"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-gerrit-commit-message","patch_set":3,"id":"075aa5d4_0582cac4","line":14,"range":{"start_line":12,"start_character":30,"end_line":14,"end_character":45},"updated":"2023-03-01 18:34:06.000000000","message":"I do not agree here, I do not find it confusing and I can read it easily that it is OpenStack 2023.1 integrated release with Nova 27.0.0 or 27.1.0 version. I mean it contain all information and people can know what level of versioning (OpenStack integrated or peroject major or minor version) they need for their use case.\n\nMaybe we need some strong reason on why this is confusing for people.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"dbc5381a2e2c536c9b85e30faa971d1b14c02bc0","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":9,"context_line":"There are several reasons why project versions worth to have main focus"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":"comparing to openstack versions."},{"line_number":11,"context_line":""},{"line_number":12,"context_line":"1. Under release notes having OpenStack version first is quite confusing"},{"line_number":13,"context_line":"aspart of the content there are differences between minor versions."},{"line_number":14,"context_line":"For example this would be quite hard to read:"},{"line_number":15,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.0)"},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.1)"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.1.0)"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-gerrit-commit-message","patch_set":3,"id":"e51ae14b_f039acc5","line":14,"range":{"start_line":12,"start_character":30,"end_line":14,"end_character":45},"in_reply_to":"075aa5d4_0582cac4","updated":"2023-03-03 10:45:14.000000000","message":"For me it\u0027s readability thing first of all. While it indeed does contain all infromation, but by human nature we perceive beginning better, so when you\u0027re kind of scrolling through doc you might not spot difference in the last number in brackets.\n\nAlso content in brackets in most languages means arbitrary, smth you can skip as it\u0027s just adding more context to what\u0027s written around. But in the release notes project version is kind of main content, as they\u0027re describing differences like bugfixes or backported features within same openstack release but between minor/bugfix versions.\n\nBut maybe it\u0027s just mine perception issues.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"c708bdc08c76da2620102f6e57af140ab858e492","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":9,"context_line":"There are several reasons why project versions worth to have main focus"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":"comparing to openstack versions."},{"line_number":11,"context_line":""},{"line_number":12,"context_line":"1. 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And this is exactly what is going to change on that page?\n\u003e \n\nWe unfortunately use the project release version due to reno which looks up at the git tags. \nIf you look at the next prelude we will have for 2023.1, we use the OpenStaxk release number before the project one.\nhttps://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/unreleased.html#prelude\n\n\n\u003e Most of operators I\u0027ve interacted with are reffering to what they see in pip freeze .\n\nWell, if I was an operator, I would use https://releases.openstack.org/teams/nova.html to know which OpenStack release is related from the nova package I have","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"d646bdf6592a6ae0b2eead892acb0c4fe27803c5","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":9,"context_line":"There are several reasons why project versions worth to have main focus"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":"comparing to openstack versions."},{"line_number":11,"context_line":""},{"line_number":12,"context_line":"1. Under release notes having OpenStack version first is quite confusing"},{"line_number":13,"context_line":"aspart of the content there are differences between minor versions."},{"line_number":14,"context_line":"For example this would be quite hard to read:"},{"line_number":15,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.0)"},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.1)"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.1.0)"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-gerrit-commit-message","patch_set":3,"id":"d4a10525_e32db9d9","line":14,"range":{"start_line":12,"start_character":30,"end_line":14,"end_character":45},"in_reply_to":"d6a375eb_6df6f842","updated":"2023-03-08 16:55:22.000000000","message":"But you\u0027re using nova versions in release note without openstack release as of today? And this is exactly what is going to change on that page?\n\nAlso I\u0027d challenge \"most of operators\" statement as I\u0027m not sure how that was measured. Most of operators I\u0027ve interacted with are reffering to what they see in `pip freeze`.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"0ab0cd1bf7beb30888fca8f327e898a0aec7e2d0","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":9,"context_line":"There are several reasons why project versions worth to have main focus"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":"comparing to openstack versions."},{"line_number":11,"context_line":""},{"line_number":12,"context_line":"1. Under release notes having OpenStack version first is quite confusing"},{"line_number":13,"context_line":"aspart of the content there are differences between minor versions."},{"line_number":14,"context_line":"For example this would be quite hard to read:"},{"line_number":15,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.0)"},{"line_number":16,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.0.1)"},{"line_number":17,"context_line":"* OpenStack 2023.1 (Nova 27.1.0)"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-gerrit-commit-message","patch_set":3,"id":"d6a375eb_6df6f842","line":14,"range":{"start_line":12,"start_character":30,"end_line":14,"end_character":45},"in_reply_to":"e51ae14b_f039acc5","updated":"2023-03-07 17:33:28.000000000","message":"Yeah, as I said before, most of our Nova operators know more about a specific release name than the project version.\n\nIf they want to look at the release notes, they already know about which project they look at, but they want to know which new features are there, like https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/zed.html\n\nSo, I think it\u0027s just a perception issue.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"}],"/PATCHSET_LEVEL":[{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"d16548e5f38588909c12050e35ccd0e7db045adf","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"533c3cbf_ff81fa3b","updated":"2023-03-01 17:02:44.000000000","message":"I will say I do not prefer this format, but if we *have* to make some change, I\u0027d prefer this than losing the openstack correlation. The extra verbiage about independent projects may be useful, though, so I\u0027m not opposed to that. Ironic is not on the independent cycle, so I don\u0027t think that will address JayF\u0027s concerns.\n\nI\u0027m CR-1ing this instead of RC-1ing to show my \"I\u0027d rather not unless we have to\" feeling :)","commit_id":"200168b335d79766e786e9d0896bf61f6b131f46"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"d4e6a210b48a9f23b926eeea24f81411dce0527d","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"7a35a0e4_0326bf9f","in_reply_to":"533c3cbf_ff81fa3b","updated":"2023-03-01 17:12:02.000000000","message":"Well, I think we still should address independent ones, but when I started result looked quite ugly.\n\nSo I can propose also very minimalistic change, in case there won\u0027t be quorum for this one, to address only independent as we should not forget about them.","commit_id":"200168b335d79766e786e9d0896bf61f6b131f46"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"0ab0cd1bf7beb30888fca8f327e898a0aec7e2d0","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":3,"id":"e32d0cf4_8a60ede1","updated":"2023-03-07 17:33:28.000000000","message":"Continuing to say -1 for this change. Please don\u0027t change it, see my comments.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"3da83b29b70c0b2c74014c0662957bad44eec8a4","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":3,"id":"48fcf9c2_a8a4feb1","updated":"2023-03-01 18:34:06.000000000","message":"I really like the current format which cover both integrated and standalone usage but if project prefer the project version first then OpenStack (even we should know the reasoning for that) then I will not be against of this. But yes we should have OpenStack release version either at first or in bracket. \n\nI am CR+1 but will convert RV+1 if we can have some strong/convincing reasoning of preferring the project version before OpenStack version.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"ffca7c4368549d01ebcf1f4fac434812c0eeccf9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":3,"id":"0424080a_5b017bc3","updated":"2023-03-15 16:44:51.000000000","message":"It\u0027s been a while and nobody else seems to be strongly in favor of this. I\u0027m not strongly opposed, but I definitely don\u0027t like this over the format we have now. So I\u0027m going to formally say I don\u0027t think we should make this change (either).","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"147a4320e11d627f91bea38ad2490a72932e7817","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":3,"id":"d2c38c33_4ebdb96e","in_reply_to":"0424080a_5b017bc3","updated":"2023-03-28 12:29:44.000000000","message":"Yeah, let\u0027s feel free to abandon it. I personally definitely would prefer having this format, but it\u0027s not _very_ strong opinion, as it\u0027s really abut format and not content. Was just trying to find a middle ground that would satisfy everyone interested.","commit_id":"bb6cb7af5fffba537e0ebb9000fb4ce009743b9f"}],"reference/release-naming.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"e4444746003ef5dbe7b17259ce50dca4c0580634","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":53,"context_line":""},{"line_number":54,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":55,"context_line":""},{"line_number":56,"context_line":"  * Tempest 33.0.0"},{"line_number":57,"context_line":"  * Tooz 3.2.0"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":""},{"line_number":59,"context_line":"* Project specific documentation: use version of the project combined with release name."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"b8f7ac8c_4fefec34","line":56,"range":{"start_line":56,"start_character":4,"end_line":56,"end_character":12},"updated":"2023-03-01 16:43:31.000000000","message":"tempest is cycle-with-intermediate release you can use hacking which is independent release","commit_id":"200168b335d79766e786e9d0896bf61f6b131f46"},{"author":{"_account_id":7166,"name":"Sylvain Bauza","email":"sbauza@redhat.com","username":"sbauza"},"change_message_id":"11fc64eef1453ecc28a8ab5646b9194a2fc3b752","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.0.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.1.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"ef840837_6b5ff362","line":48,"updated":"2023-03-01 17:12:19.000000000","message":"No, please. Again, for consistency, projects should never be saying their internal version numbers first.\n\nPlease lemme rather just say \"OpenStack Nova 2023.1.0 (27.0.0)\" if that really needs to be an interim solution","commit_id":"1bcbb77307ffb5792d1e1bab0aa5c7bbbc5f9a47"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"5d46276b8dbad0523287cfdbdcaff44d6939097b","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.0.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.1.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"299f43fa_002905e3","line":48,"in_reply_to":"7ed5efbb_9eb23970","updated":"2023-03-01 17:39:05.000000000","message":"Like I said, for independent projects, making it clear that just the version (the semver one) is fine/preferred. To be clear, Ironic is not independent.\n\nBut I totally agree that moving all the projects to 202x.y.z would be *amazing*. Right now, people will open bugs or ask for help and tell us they\u0027re using \"Nova 23\" because that\u0027s what their distro package tells them. We have to go look up what that even means. Every. Time. :)","commit_id":"1bcbb77307ffb5792d1e1bab0aa5c7bbbc5f9a47"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"aad2560228c5bc2860b57ea9bef1edc4f0c4c3e3","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.0.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.1.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"7ed5efbb_9eb23970","line":48,"in_reply_to":"a1f77145_4e6a2aad","updated":"2023-03-01 17:33:41.000000000","message":"Though I really do like idea of syncing release versions for all projects with non-independent release cycle and make them 2023.1.0.0 - that\u0027s really great for consistency and very clear for end users.","commit_id":"1bcbb77307ffb5792d1e1bab0aa5c7bbbc5f9a47"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"a380bc5b47ff6a3ad0d58d5257f1afa7ee68aef8","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.0.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.1.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"fd47c1aa_fddb85cc","line":48,"in_reply_to":"ef840837_6b5ff362","updated":"2023-03-01 17:22:32.000000000","message":"My problem is that current way of versioning release notes is not readable by humans. As example here https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/zed.html according to current document instead of `26.1.0` and `26.0.0` it would be\n`OpenStack Zed (Nova 26.1.0)` and `OpenStack Zed (Nova 26.0.0)` correspondingly.","commit_id":"1bcbb77307ffb5792d1e1bab0aa5c7bbbc5f9a47"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"08626441a29c91623ec7d1db971f2c67bac929ec","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":""},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"  Examples:"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.0.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  * Nova 27.1.0 (OpenStack 2023.1)"},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"a1f77145_4e6a2aad","line":48,"in_reply_to":"fd47c1aa_fddb85cc","updated":"2023-03-01 17:26:07.000000000","message":"Also I\u0027m not sure how saying coordinated release is consistent for projects with independent release cycle that simply do not belong to any coordinated release. But then difference for independent vs others will be more significant as what is considered less sufficient (in brackets) is the only versioning for such projects.","commit_id":"1bcbb77307ffb5792d1e1bab0aa5c7bbbc5f9a47"}]}