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Otherwise, I approve of this proposal.","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":15993,"name":"Amy Marrich","display_name":"Amy Marrich (spotz)","email":"amy@demarco.com","username":"amarrich"},"change_message_id":"85221a279781877266f6eee985378cf089e225e2","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"e5270480_081edad5","updated":"2023-09-30 01:02:25.000000000","message":"From going through the patch and the comments made it seems we are good to drop 3.8 at this point. If there is another patch I agree with Dan about fixing the commit but I wouldn\u0027t hold merging for it.","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"e662a592e56242926a307871d2f80490daf76b16","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"10ff2592_6cf6c49a","updated":"2023-10-02 19:02:47.000000000","message":"I am in favor of dropping Python 3.8 for next cycle; it will reduce the difficulty of the already-hard task of our requirements team, and ensure we support python releases that will also be supported for the length of time we\u0027ll be supporting OpenStack.\n\nPlease resolve specific spelling/grammar errors as indicated by other reviewers. Thank you!","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"09c7c883467ea4349903272375efd8ec64869a19","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"d40315f7_7d1d4dde","updated":"2023-09-28 21:26:16.000000000","message":"I still did not find any strong reason to drop it so I am in support of keep testing it which is not huge cost.","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":4393,"name":"Dan Smith","email":"dms@danplanet.com","username":"danms"},"change_message_id":"d33a431f741da4ddc5cb993d07092d7d177b9daa","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"d4947d87_84701dad","updated":"2023-09-28 16:44:58.000000000","message":"It seems like there\u0027s not much reason to keep 3.8 anymore, but if there is, I think we need to have it spelled out explicitly.\n\nThat said, I\u0027m also not sure there\u0027s a serious problem with keeping it if there\u0027s a good reason. I think dropping something so old should be the default, so let\u0027s enumerate the specific reasons why we shouldn\u0027t.\n\nCR-1 for the commit message.","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"8a7ee0984f3f8a7dc599f3481d5644b9f99e3dc7","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"43f5e2ce_699bab7e","updated":"2023-10-02 06:47:43.000000000","message":"https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/884564 now contains a list of pkgs in the commit message that dropped support for python3.8 and thus would require special handling and testing on outdated versions if we were to continue wanting to have py3.8","commit_id":"d71729c72cf7d0f6e49ff6fc9e6eb3477ba2ced3"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam 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going to push a change stacked on this to resolve outstanding PR comments and land this. There is not consensus among TC members about whether or not to keep python 3.8; but the majority vote is to keep python 3.8 and this document -- and the vote in gerrit -- reflects that.","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":28522,"name":"Hervé Beraud","email":"herveberaud.pro@gmail.com","username":"hberaud"},"change_message_id":"bb9f61e9b613f140d0d5821b30981f8ac12a9a4f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"cb11a88e_3128d021","updated":"2023-10-11 16:14:21.000000000","message":"I agree with this proposal","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":28619,"name":"Dmitriy Rabotyagov","email":"noonedeadpunk@gmail.com","username":"noonedeadpunk"},"change_message_id":"8dde90a3f6d569e32714d41bcbdbd535db91b907","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"8508035b_561c1dc7","updated":"2023-10-11 17:23:32.000000000","message":"I have some nits about format, but not to the content. Content looks good","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":5314,"name":"Brian Rosmaita","email":"rosmaita.fossdev@gmail.com","username":"brian-rosmaita"},"change_message_id":"6115f1cc92052b72330fde8b4885e608449e8d18","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"33e951ff_29ba795e","updated":"2023-10-10 21:28:59.000000000","message":"I just don\u0027t see that py38 support for 2024.1 makes sense.  It\u0027s not a default version in Ubuntu 22.04, Debian 12, Debian 11, CentOS Stream 9, or Rocky Linux 9,\nwhich are the distros specifically called out in the current 2024.1 PTI that this proposal is patching.\n\nWhile we can use Ubuntu 20.04 to run unit tests, we can\u0027t run master (2024.1 development) devstack in it, so it doesn\u0027t seem to me that Ubuntu 20.04 is a distribution that we can feasibly use for meaningful 2024.1 testing.  This implies, in my opinion, that there is a solid reason for dropping python 3.8 support in advance of it going EOL, as required by [0].  \n\nLooking at the Python Update Process resolution [1], python 3.8 does not meet the three criteria set out in the \"Unit Tests\" section:\n\n1. it\u0027s not the latest version of Python 3 available in any distro we can feasibly use for testing\n2. It\u0027s not the default in any of the Linux distros identified in the 2024.1 PTI\n3. It isn\u0027t used to run integration tests at the beginning of the 2024.1 (Caracal) cycle\n\nAdd to that the fact that libraries are beginning to drop support [2], add further that py38 will go EOL roughly 6 months after the 2024.1 release (no more security updates), I don\u0027t see a reason to wait until a key library forces us to make a change during the development cycle.  I\u0027d prefer to do it now.\n\n[0] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/pti/python.html#specific-commands\n[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20181024-python-update-process.html#unit-tests\n[2] https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/requirements/+/884564","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"4ec10847fdfdbae727e3e2a14319c4e65ecea904","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"afb2a238_d86bb60f","updated":"2023-10-12 10:10:57.000000000","message":"I was under the assumption that dropping py3.8 could be proposed in a different patch, but apparently there is a tendency to keep the number of updates to this document small. so -1 since I do want dropping py3.8 to happen","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"54c30f097b943d32cc966b9ae928c87eb35a06a2","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"0b3586f0_68756bab","updated":"2023-10-12 19:57:40.000000000","message":"My intention was to merge this today; the current majority is in favor of leaving python 3.8 in the PTI. Can you please correct the issues pointed out -- either here, or post a follow up issue for rapid merge, so I can land this?\n\nIf tc-members would like more time for discussing this, I encourage you to switch your vote to 0 or -1 before this action happens, otherwise I will land this once the functional issues are resolved.","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":10342,"name":"Jay Faulkner","display_name":"JayF","email":"jay@jvf.cc","username":"JayF","status":"youtube.com/@oss-gr / podcast.gr-oss.io"},"change_message_id":"131e1f2c6f506cf829011ca75c29225c90ad7a5d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"64464f7f_4a8b451d","updated":"2023-10-11 15:22:20.000000000","message":"Resetting vote; Brian makes some compelling arguments for dropping python 3.8 support and this patch is likely the best place to have that discussion unless more information comes about.","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":28522,"name":"Hervé Beraud","email":"herveberaud.pro@gmail.com","username":"hberaud"},"change_message_id":"997e32f392d3333ed660bee4dd215cd6fce27267","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"4a94d914_afd3aa9a","updated":"2023-10-11 16:19:10.000000000","message":"Sorry, I mean, I agree with Brian\u0027s proposal to drop 3.8","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":11604,"name":"sean mooney","email":"smooney@redhat.com","username":"sean-k-mooney"},"change_message_id":"f3da7b5e12115f2bf8a2d57335269945f20f722d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"0e5e04ca_5712db43","updated":"2023-10-12 11:32:31.000000000","message":"im fine with doing it in a diffent patch but this patch was orginally inteded to remove python 3.8","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"bf08abf1e0127064aa922db5fab5634f3273f5de","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"61f2bac3_84bca78f","updated":"2023-10-10 13:19:02.000000000","message":"thx","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"},{"author":{"_account_id":11604,"name":"sean mooney","email":"smooney@redhat.com","username":"sean-k-mooney"},"change_message_id":"2ad7f5c98aee4dd35556a272d5705fa522f2fedc","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":6,"id":"3ec137bc_bf2c22cf","in_reply_to":"33e951ff_29ba795e","updated":"2023-10-11 15:04:37.000000000","message":"I agree with all of your points which is why I orginaly started this patch.\nwith that said im happy to update this based on the consensus of this discussion and the mailing list thread or you can feel free to update this.","commit_id":"21c4f8197401eb157aad06bda4a02d6478a5a13d"}],"reference/runtimes/2024.1.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"fd75a48d677aefef3423eef8f95ad33f001887f2","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":39,"context_line":"Based on the criteria above, all Python-based projects must target and test"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"against, at a minimum:"},{"line_number":41,"context_line":""},{"line_number":42,"context_line":"* Python 3.8 (available as default in Ubuntu 20.04)"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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I don\u0027t think we should be supporting 3.8 in 2024.1\n\nMy understanding is that you can\u0027t run current devstack or nova on Focal [0], so Python 3.8 being the default python in Focal doesn\u0027t seem relevant to keeping 3.8.\n\n[0] https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2023/tc.2023-09-05-18.01.log.html","commit_id":"5e4b092c53ddb81514d859a74bbfb25fd1f2e45f"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"fd75a48d677aefef3423eef8f95ad33f001887f2","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":39,"context_line":"Based on the criteria above, all Python-based projects must target and test"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"against, at a minimum:"},{"line_number":41,"context_line":""},{"line_number":42,"context_line":"* Python 3.8 (available as default in Ubuntu 20.04)"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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When we tried to bump the python min supported version in 2023.1 we encountered the issue when oslo lib dropped the py3.8 support and broke many projects.\n\ntesting runtime was always a minimum expectation of testing y all projects not the max so we never wanted oslo lib drop the things first and then projects are forcefully to do. we clarified all those expectation and also made it explicitly in testing runime that we do not want to drop the python min supported version from OpenStack unless it is mandatory to drop due to EOL or so\n\n- https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/882154\n\nand we added py3.8 testing back in 2023.2\n- https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/882165","commit_id":"5e4b092c53ddb81514d859a74bbfb25fd1f2e45f"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"611ff84e5a534a5fc45203ede2f0e2d4b31c7cce","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":39,"context_line":"Based on the criteria above, all Python-based projects must target and test"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"against, at a minimum:"},{"line_number":41,"context_line":""},{"line_number":42,"context_line":"* Python 3.8 (available as default in Ubuntu 20.04)"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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What other reason do we have to keep this mandatory?\n\nPoints against: Projects will need to keep testing for 18 months, so for 12 months they will need to test an EOLed python version.\n\nAlso lots of libraries are already dropping support for 3.8 now, so this will make us require having version specific pins in upper-constraints again, testing against outdated libraries with 3.8.","commit_id":"5e4b092c53ddb81514d859a74bbfb25fd1f2e45f"},{"author":{"_account_id":8556,"name":"Ghanshyam Maan","display_name":"Ghanshyam Maan","email":"gmaan.os14@gmail.com","username":"ghanshyam"},"change_message_id":"f81432922fbff9be8190d843deb9e2762d97c574","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":39,"context_line":"Based on the criteria above, all Python-based projects must target and test"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"against, at a minimum:"},{"line_number":41,"context_line":""},{"line_number":42,"context_line":"* Python 3.8 (available as default in Ubuntu 20.04)"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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Same we did in py2.7 drop case.","commit_id":"5e4b092c53ddb81514d859a74bbfb25fd1f2e45f"},{"author":{"_account_id":11604,"name":"sean mooney","email":"smooney@redhat.com","username":"sean-k-mooney"},"change_message_id":"af48a8c8fcc89b6a21ce242212154fefe7189709","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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If we take the current approch you reference we woudl remvoe 3.8 support in 2024.2 since there would be less the 1 month of support correct.","commit_id":"5e4b092c53ddb81514d859a74bbfb25fd1f2e45f"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"75a9a3e5063b10d2fb9ace8bed0a4e795396f482","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":39,"context_line":"Based on the criteria above, all Python-based projects must target and test"},{"line_number":40,"context_line":"against, at a minimum:"},{"line_number":41,"context_line":""},{"line_number":42,"context_line":"* Python 3.8 (available as default in Ubuntu 20.04)"},{"line_number":43,"context_line":""},{"line_number":44,"context_line":"  Minimal requirement on testing jobs against Python versions above is to"},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"  ensure language compatibility, for example by running unit tests. 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If it work and any users use 2024.1 on python3.8 then what is harm?\n\nAs python3.8 is going to be EOL in Oct 2024, that is after our two release from now 2024.1(SLURP) and 2024.2(non SLURP). I think we can drop it is 2025.1 release or if we want we can drop in 2024.2 a little head of its EOL.\n\nHonestly saying I still do not find any strong reason to drop python3.8 or bump min python version so aggressivly. 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