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You don\u0027t want to put more passwords in config files. Key rotation is much easier than password rotation.","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"},{"author":{"_account_id":2813,"name":"Mehdi Abaakouk","email":"sileht@sileht.net","username":"sileht"},"change_message_id":"76ec5850abe06e1d9932b6d78ee63410a8afb2cf","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":"chicken/egg problem, the Swift will proxy have to use the tempauth middleware"},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"in additionnal of Keystone one, this will result by having the user/password"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"in the configuration of Swift and Keystone, and using the v1 auth API of Swift"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"to retreive a token instead of Keystone for this drivers."},{"line_number":49,"context_line":""},{"line_number":50,"context_line":"Notifications Impact"},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"--------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"da86d52c_fa629a3c","line":48,"in_reply_to":"da86d52c_44b1368e","updated":"2015-02-04 14:55:26.000000000","message":"From my understanding, you can\u0027t create the tempurl key if you are not authenticated into swift, swift need to talk to keystone to do the authentification, but it can\u0027t because keystone need to talk to swift to create a token. Now we are in a loop. The only way to create the token of the account used by keystone to store tokens in swift is to have a static tempauth account in the proxy-server.conf, in this case Swift will create a token himself instead of asking keystone again.","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"},{"author":{"_account_id":2813,"name":"Mehdi Abaakouk","email":"sileht@sileht.net","username":"sileht"},"change_message_id":"b469e8dd5ebe5c2fddbc6f8d0f409b5030dd6784","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":"chicken/egg problem, the Swift will proxy have to use the tempauth middleware"},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"in additionnal of Keystone one, this will result by having the user/password"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"in the configuration of Swift and Keystone, and using the v1 auth API of Swift"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"to retreive a token instead of Keystone for this drivers."},{"line_number":49,"context_line":""},{"line_number":50,"context_line":"Notifications Impact"},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"--------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"da86d52c_edd14158","line":48,"in_reply_to":"da86d52c_a49f77b3","updated":"2015-02-03 10:59:14.000000000","message":"tempurl cannot be used, this is not an authentification middleware, it depends of an underlying authentfication to create the key.","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"},{"author":{"_account_id":330,"name":"John Dickinson","email":"me@not.mn","username":"notmyname"},"change_message_id":"eb596b210beaa11d5b4370d286d6c6ff9136851b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":45,"context_line":"chicken/egg problem, the Swift will proxy have to use the tempauth middleware"},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"in additionnal of Keystone one, this will result by having the user/password"},{"line_number":47,"context_line":"in the configuration of Swift and Keystone, and using the v1 auth API of Swift"},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"to retreive a token instead of Keystone for this drivers."},{"line_number":49,"context_line":""},{"line_number":50,"context_line":"Notifications Impact"},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"--------------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"da86d52c_44b1368e","line":48,"in_reply_to":"da86d52c_edd14158","updated":"2015-02-03 16:51:49.000000000","message":"Can you explain more about why tempurl cannot be used?","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"},{"author":{"_account_id":1916,"name":"Guang Yee","email":"gyee@suse.com","username":"guang-yee"},"change_message_id":"a40f86f08a37b607b349bd60d2be9520b6e5ff01","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":72,"context_line":"In case of Swift uses Keystone as authentification method, to resolve"},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"chicken/egg problem, the Swift proxy will have to use the"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"`tempauth middleware \u003chttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_auth.html#tempauth\u003e`"},{"line_number":75,"context_line":"in additionnel of Keystone one, with a tempauth account to store tokens."},{"line_number":76,"context_line":""},{"line_number":77,"context_line":"Developer Impact"},{"line_number":78,"context_line":"----------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"da86d52c_a4d4d747","line":75,"updated":"2015-02-02 23:26:49.000000000","message":"Can you also elaborate on the bootstrap process? Like how do we provision the account in Swift? Are we storing the tokens in a specific container? How do we lookup tokens belong to a user? What does token revocation look look?","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"},{"author":{"_account_id":2813,"name":"Mehdi Abaakouk","email":"sileht@sileht.net","username":"sileht"},"change_message_id":"b469e8dd5ebe5c2fddbc6f8d0f409b5030dd6784","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":72,"context_line":"In case of Swift uses Keystone as authentification method, to resolve"},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"chicken/egg problem, the Swift proxy will have to use the"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"`tempauth middleware \u003chttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_auth.html#tempauth\u003e`"},{"line_number":75,"context_line":"in additionnel of Keystone one, with a tempauth account to store tokens."},{"line_number":76,"context_line":""},{"line_number":77,"context_line":"Developer Impact"},{"line_number":78,"context_line":"----------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"da86d52c_4d3a4d37","line":75,"in_reply_to":"da86d52c_a4d4d747","updated":"2015-02-03 10:59:14.000000000","message":"This is already explained in the security section, Tempauth is just a static login/password into the swift server.conf file.","commit_id":"dcfd243438b6c7f25f7ef1fe25dc2566fce33427"}]}