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{"specs/kilo/services-split.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":10310,"name":"Mandeep Dhami","email":"dhami@noironetworks.com","username":"mandeepdhami"},"change_message_id":"66f18f11ea457b4ef9b179945bc01d4cc378ce69","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":33,"context_line":"Going forward we want to divide the Neutron repository into multiple separate"},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"repositories lead by a common Networking PTL.  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As Doug says, this spec is about the technical aspects of the split, not the governance angle of the split.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"8b1977f48308c6d60b4dc9448405071a19c62b82","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":33,"context_line":"Going forward we want to divide the Neutron repository into multiple separate"},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"repositories lead by a common Networking PTL.  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Should that repo live in this project?","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":490,"name":"Sumit Naiksatam","email":"sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com","username":"snaiksat"},"change_message_id":"1b3c69e4704d601c5609177f7fdcdec4003178ba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":46,"context_line":"* Currently the neutron code is in a single repo, with a single set of cores."},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"* After the split, all \"services\" code and db models will be in a new"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  services repo, preserving history."},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"* After the split, no services code to be in the neutron repo, with"},{"line_number":52,"context_line":"  non-relavant history pruned."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_9e9de968","line":49,"updated":"2014-11-25 08:39:08.000000000","message":"+1 to the above two, but we should also consider include moving the relevant extension definitions to the services\u0027 repo.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"8b1977f48308c6d60b4dc9448405071a19c62b82","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":46,"context_line":"* Currently the neutron code is in a single repo, with a single set of cores."},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"* After the split, all \"services\" code and db models will be in a new"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  services repo, preserving history."},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"* After the split, no services code to be in the neutron repo, with"},{"line_number":52,"context_line":"  non-relavant history pruned."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_92eb0c12","line":49,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_327fc1e1","updated":"2014-11-25 15:27:56.000000000","message":"Will update.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":6995,"name":"Sridar Kandaswamy","email":"skandasw@yahoo.com","username":"skandasw"},"change_message_id":"74cad2c422356e3709a109d40ec09e59f2d323da","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":46,"context_line":"* Currently the neutron code is in a single repo, with a single set of cores."},{"line_number":47,"context_line":""},{"line_number":48,"context_line":"* After the split, all \"services\" code and db models will be in a new"},{"line_number":49,"context_line":"  services repo, preserving history."},{"line_number":50,"context_line":""},{"line_number":51,"context_line":"* After the split, no services code to be in the neutron repo, with"},{"line_number":52,"context_line":"  non-relavant history pruned."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_026d05cc","line":49,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_92eb0c12","updated":"2014-11-25 17:17:48.000000000","message":"I think we want vendor code to live in the same services repo  initially. 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We deprecate when we have a replacement.  I\u0027m not sure the split affects this in Kilo, beyond the fact that if lbaas v2 lands, we\u0027ll deprecate v1 in Kilo.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":490,"name":"Sumit Naiksatam","email":"sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com","username":"snaiksat"},"change_message_id":"1b3c69e4704d601c5609177f7fdcdec4003178ba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":68,"context_line":"  changes."},{"line_number":69,"context_line":""},{"line_number":70,"context_line":"* The existing services code (e.g. lbaas v1), will move into the services repo"},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"  and be maintained by that repo\u0027s team going forward."},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"* Initially, the services repo will not have its own REST service, and will"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"  utilize neutron extensions to share the neutron API namespace.  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But it seems to me the current extension files with their resource/attribute definitions will have to change to match how that is done in Pecan. \n\nI imagine that there is a fair chunk of work that will go into changing the common neutron core so that the REST \"wiring\" is done the Pecan way. And along with that another chunk of work spent on detailing how extensions are to be implemented. Once that is properly sorted out the individual extensions can be refactored according to the new pattern.\n\nWith that in mind, it seems to me that, at some point, more people (\u003d us) could pitch in to rewrite all those adv. services extensions the pecan way. \nThat will spread the load and hopefully increase velocity. Further, I cannot see why a move of the extension definitions to the new repo already in Kilo-1 will be problematic. 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Which would mean neutron would have neutron in their requirements.txt, which would be odd.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"e54fb2f8831f57af94d8206c71a341ea56903ce9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":79,"context_line":"  are being worked out."},{"line_number":80,"context_line":""},{"line_number":81,"context_line":"* The services repo will include neutron as a dependency in the"},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"  requirements.txt file, and the services code may import neutron as a library."},{"line_number":83,"context_line":""},{"line_number":84,"context_line":"* The neutron repo will have some manner of dependency specified for packaging,"},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_49ce5b5b","line":82,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_a41b7471","updated":"2014-11-25 14:33:47.000000000","message":"Check out the README in the global requirements repo:\n\nEnforcement in Projects\n-----------------------\n\nAll projects that have accepted the requirements contract (as listed\nin ``projects.txt``) are expected to run a requirements compatibility\njob that ensures that they can not change any lines in global\nrequirements to versions not in ``global-requirements.txt``. It also\nensures that those projects can\u0027t add a requirement that\u0027s not already\nin ``global-requirements.txt``.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":490,"name":"Sumit Naiksatam","email":"sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com","username":"snaiksat"},"change_message_id":"1b3c69e4704d601c5609177f7fdcdec4003178ba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":79,"context_line":"  are being worked out."},{"line_number":80,"context_line":""},{"line_number":81,"context_line":"* The services repo will include neutron as a dependency in the"},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"  requirements.txt file, and the services code may import neutron as a library."},{"line_number":83,"context_line":""},{"line_number":84,"context_line":"* The neutron repo will have some manner of dependency specified for packaging,"},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_a41b7471","line":82,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_a70fff37","updated":"2014-11-25 08:39:08.000000000","message":"I think the project requirements should be able to extend the global requirements.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"b7b80bbb7f3a34782eaa21fe673162ce8f8ae999","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":79,"context_line":"  are being worked out."},{"line_number":80,"context_line":""},{"line_number":81,"context_line":"* The services repo will include neutron as a dependency in the"},{"line_number":82,"context_line":"  requirements.txt file, and the services code may import neutron as a library."},{"line_number":83,"context_line":""},{"line_number":84,"context_line":"* The neutron repo will have some manner of dependency specified for packaging,"},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_2c4bf4b1","line":82,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_db286c35","updated":"2014-11-25 00:17:52.000000000","message":"Global requirements is a subset of project requirements, right?  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The dependency should be the other way around, neutron should not have to know about the services\u0027 project.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10850,"name":"German Eichberger","email":"german.eichberger@gmail.com","username":"german"},"change_message_id":"a19ef5b41248399deee576356b9470d4f333d702","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":83,"context_line":""},{"line_number":84,"context_line":"* The neutron repo will have some manner of dependency specified for packaging,"},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"  A hacking check will be added to ensure that neutron code does not import"},{"line_number":87,"context_line":"  services code as a library."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"* Extensions will stay inside the neutron repo, at least until after the REST"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_622de08e","line":86,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_49f57b81","updated":"2014-11-25 21:01:59.000000000","message":"+1 Sumit. Neutron should be able to run without any advanced services if somebody chooses to do so.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"e54fb2f8831f57af94d8206c71a341ea56903ce9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":83,"context_line":""},{"line_number":84,"context_line":"* The neutron repo will have some manner of dependency specified for packaging,"},{"line_number":85,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."},{"line_number":86,"context_line":"  A hacking check will be added to ensure that neutron code does not import"},{"line_number":87,"context_line":"  services code as a library."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"* Extensions will stay inside the neutron repo, at least until after the REST"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_49f57b81","line":86,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_c42de090","updated":"2014-11-25 14:33:47.000000000","message":"It\u0027s circular, for the upgrade cases.  Refer to deployment scenarios below.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":490,"name":"Sumit Naiksatam","email":"sumitnaiksatam@gmail.com","username":"snaiksat"},"change_message_id":"1b3c69e4704d601c5609177f7fdcdec4003178ba","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":87,"context_line":"  services code as a library."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"* Extensions will stay inside the neutron repo, at least until after the REST"},{"line_number":90,"context_line":"  refactor."},{"line_number":91,"context_line":""},{"line_number":92,"context_line":"* Code merged onto the existing \u0027feature/lbaasv2\u0027 neutron feature branch will"},{"line_number":93,"context_line":"  be merged into the service repo as part of the split."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_04536817","line":90,"updated":"2014-11-25 08:39:08.000000000","message":"Why?","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"e54fb2f8831f57af94d8206c71a341ea56903ce9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":87,"context_line":"  services code as a library."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"* Extensions will stay inside the neutron repo, at least until after the REST"},{"line_number":90,"context_line":"  refactor."},{"line_number":91,"context_line":""},{"line_number":92,"context_line":"* Code merged onto the existing \u0027feature/lbaasv2\u0027 neutron feature branch will"},{"line_number":93,"context_line":"  be merged into the service repo as part of the split."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_0937f34d","line":90,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_04536817","updated":"2014-11-25 14:33:47.000000000","message":"Let me nuke this line, as it\u0027s redundant with line 73-79.  It\u0027s temporary, during the REST refactor.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":162,"name":"Bob Melander","email":"bob.melander@gmail.com","username":"bob-melander"},"change_message_id":"d2ce945b3fd94a104953d489990fdbabddaf25c0","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":87,"context_line":"  services code as a library."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"* Extensions will stay inside the neutron repo, at least until after the REST"},{"line_number":90,"context_line":"  refactor."},{"line_number":91,"context_line":""},{"line_number":92,"context_line":"* Code merged onto the existing \u0027feature/lbaasv2\u0027 neutron feature branch will"},{"line_number":93,"context_line":"  be merged into the service repo as part of the split."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_ed4718a1","line":90,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_04536817","updated":"2014-11-25 15:15:55.000000000","message":"This makes the BP confusing. I suggest removing it.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":9375,"name":"Stephen Wong","email":"stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com","username":"s3wong"},"change_message_id":"5e336a12d5fcbbe35619cde948b3e1fc86c76179","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":94,"context_line":""},{"line_number":95,"context_line":"* All outstanding gerrit reviews for services, currently submitted against "},{"line_number":96,"context_line":"  Neutron, will have to be abandoned and resubmitted against the services repo."},{"line_number":97,"context_line":""},{"line_number":98,"context_line":"* Tox will pass cleanly in both projects immediately post-split."},{"line_number":99,"context_line":""},{"line_number":100,"context_line":"* The services repo will not support python 2.6."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_27730f4f","line":97,"updated":"2014-11-25 01:42:59.000000000","message":"except for gerrit reviews for service related specs, which will still go under Neutron specs","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"ebdf4ecfce49f26e2bbe47e54b9ac623b344f61b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":94,"context_line":""},{"line_number":95,"context_line":"* All outstanding gerrit reviews for services, currently submitted against "},{"line_number":96,"context_line":"  Neutron, will have to be abandoned and resubmitted against the services repo."},{"line_number":97,"context_line":""},{"line_number":98,"context_line":"* Tox will pass cleanly in both projects immediately post-split."},{"line_number":99,"context_line":""},{"line_number":100,"context_line":"* The services repo will not support python 2.6."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_c7140b4f","line":97,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_27730f4f","updated":"2014-11-25 02:05:21.000000000","message":"Correct, will update.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":9375,"name":"Stephen Wong","email":"stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com","username":"s3wong"},"change_message_id":"5e336a12d5fcbbe35619cde948b3e1fc86c76179","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":107,"context_line":"* The services repo will have its own config file."},{"line_number":108,"context_line":""},{"line_number":109,"context_line":"* Initially, there will not be a separate CLI/client.  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This is perhaps the trickiest piece in all of this.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"3dd1cfdb282e03324da972f2e33ccf76463ee4e5","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":123,"context_line":"A db migration will be added to neutron to strip service tables."},{"line_number":124,"context_line":""},{"line_number":125,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":126,"context_line":""},{"line_number":127,"context_line":""},{"line_number":128,"context_line":"REST API Impact"},{"line_number":129,"context_line":"---------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_1152d566","line":126,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_1b24b40b","updated":"2014-11-24 23:17:22.000000000","message":"Ahh, thanks for bringing this up.  I\u0027ll put some meat around that topic.","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":9375,"name":"Stephen Wong","email":"stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com","username":"s3wong"},"change_message_id":"5e336a12d5fcbbe35619cde948b3e1fc86c76179","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":124,"context_line":""},{"line_number":125,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":126,"context_line":""},{"line_number":127,"context_line":""},{"line_number":128,"context_line":"REST API Impact"},{"line_number":129,"context_line":"---------------"},{"line_number":130,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"5a890539_e7d107fc","line":127,"updated":"2014-11-25 01:42:59.000000000","message":"How is downgrade handled? 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This has implications for service endpoint (REST server) and, I guess, also the CLI/client. \n\nCan we decide that for V2 service APIs this is no longer supported? 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Because one goal of the split was that people can run Neutron without advanced servcies if they choose to do so","commit_id":"161036e9a28d7a65f602fbab465634c1ed5b3ed0"},{"author":{"_account_id":10850,"name":"German Eichberger","email":"german.eichberger@gmail.com","username":"german"},"change_message_id":"a19ef5b41248399deee576356b9470d4f333d702","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":176,"context_line":"* Deployer will need to restart neutron-server."},{"line_number":177,"context_line":""},{"line_number":178,"context_line":"In Kilo, an upgrade from Juno or Icehouse will do the following steps:"},{"line_number":179,"context_line":""},{"line_number":180,"context_line":"* Install neutron.  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In Fedora world, we introduce a new -compat package that will handle this for upgrades:\n\nhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrade_paths_—_renaming_or_splitting_packages#.28n:m.29_Many_to_many_replacement","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"d95bc9e07f9f821732ee53a7d8ad9d7535ff0e1e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":100,"context_line":"  so that installs of neutron will pull in the services repo in the short-term."},{"line_number":101,"context_line":"  A hacking check will be added to ensure that neutron code does not import"},{"line_number":102,"context_line":"  services code as a library. 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If functional is in by that time, those too.","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"6eb8a5f0e5519fc6a4ee809a14b3db3cdcf18277","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":110,"context_line":"  Neutron, will have to be abandoned and resubmitted against the relevant"},{"line_number":111,"context_line":"  service repo.  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Rather to ultimately put the services guys on the hook if no one else does.  Will tweak.","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":9656,"name":"Ihar Hrachyshka","email":"ihrachys@redhat.com","username":"ihrachys","status":"Red Hat Networking Systems Engineer"},"change_message_id":"cd4635e296d6fff98f48156ad6bb0e4ed9bdbade","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":117,"context_line":"* Backported fixes will be merged into neutron/stable branches by the"},{"line_number":118,"context_line":"  relevant \"service\" team, approved by the stable team."},{"line_number":119,"context_line":""},{"line_number":120,"context_line":"* The service repos will use their own database (see Data Model Impact) (that\u0027s"},{"line_number":121,"context_line":"  four databases total.)"},{"line_number":122,"context_line":""},{"line_number":123,"context_line":"* The services repo will have their own config file (that\u0027s four config 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Can folks who disagreed on this point add some comments here?","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"d95bc9e07f9f821732ee53a7d8ad9d7535ff0e1e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":138,"context_line":""},{"line_number":139,"context_line":"A db migration will be added to neutron to strip service tables."},{"line_number":140,"context_line":""},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":142,"context_line":""},{"line_number":143,"context_line":"TO ADD - Foreign key info"},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5a890539_a546b24d","line":141,"updated":"2014-11-27 16:04:32.000000000","message":"you should be able to do so using migrations. As it involves different databases it might be not obvious, but it\u0027s worth trying.\n\n Otherwise there will be an additional step for operators, which wouldn\u0027t be the end of the world as well.","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"51568fdc6b2a46f76a4301f560ae22a1431cb1f3","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":138,"context_line":""},{"line_number":139,"context_line":"A db migration will be added to neutron to strip service tables."},{"line_number":140,"context_line":""},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":142,"context_line":""},{"line_number":143,"context_line":"TO ADD - Foreign key info"},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5a890539_d9ae2b2f","line":141,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_8049a462","updated":"2014-11-29 21:08:26.000000000","message":"Will follow-up, thanks.","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":9656,"name":"Ihar Hrachyshka","email":"ihrachys@redhat.com","username":"ihrachys","status":"Red Hat Networking Systems Engineer"},"change_message_id":"743ba9e7e1fff45783ef47cbb51130feb355a6dd","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":138,"context_line":""},{"line_number":139,"context_line":"A db migration will be added to neutron to strip service tables."},{"line_number":140,"context_line":""},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":142,"context_line":""},{"line_number":143,"context_line":"TO ADD - Foreign key info"},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5a890539_8049a462","line":141,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_a546b24d","updated":"2014-11-27 16:29:12.000000000","message":"Ask Mike Bayer on whether it\u0027s possible?..","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":748,"name":"Armando Migliaccio","email":"armamig@gmail.com","username":"armando-migliaccio"},"change_message_id":"833b279d468624be5352fa651bc565d37ebaa358","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":140,"context_line":""},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":142,"context_line":""},{"line_number":143,"context_line":"TO ADD - Foreign key info"},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""},{"line_number":145,"context_line":"REST API Impact"},{"line_number":146,"context_line":"---------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5a890539_db83b6a7","line":143,"updated":"2014-11-27 01:48:31.000000000","message":"eager to hear what you\u0027ll say :)","commit_id":"bfe0c284e5abf787e49a4ebb52ac73f02ebec940"},{"author":{"_account_id":10980,"name":"Doug Wiegley","email":"dougwig@parkside.io","username":"dougw"},"change_message_id":"51568fdc6b2a46f76a4301f560ae22a1431cb1f3","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":140,"context_line":""},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"An upgrade script will be provided to migrate db data from neutron to services."},{"line_number":142,"context_line":""},{"line_number":143,"context_line":"TO ADD - Foreign key info"},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""},{"line_number":145,"context_line":"REST API Impact"},{"line_number":146,"context_line":"---------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":3,"id":"5a890539_f9a92726","line":143,"in_reply_to":"5a890539_a52f9287","updated":"2014-11-29 21:08:26.000000000","message":"Either I\u0027m crazy, or I only found three foreign keys that are a problem.  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I\u0027m purposely not commenting because I believe that while it\u0027s crucial to sort out these details with the projects being separate, this does not need to gate the mechanics of the split.","commit_id":"18dba6d1053dd4514470ef244cdafd4369f56fc7"},{"author":{"_account_id":11685,"name":"Stephen Balukoff","email":"stephen@balukoff.com","username":"sbalukoff"},"change_message_id":"1591174f5372be9b55ad24de3090147f67b27ff9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":296,"context_line":"* Add hacking rule to neutron to prevent service import, with the exception"},{"line_number":297,"context_line":"  of the existing import in the L3 agent."},{"line_number":298,"context_line":""},{"line_number":299,"context_line":"* Verify or add neutron\u0027s ability to load out-of-tree service plugins."},{"line_number":300,"context_line":""},{"line_number":301,"context_line":"* Create initial services db migration files."},{"line_number":302,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5a890539_1a7f9767","line":299,"updated":"2014-12-02 03:33:31.000000000","message":"Continuing discussion from PS3:  Yes, and there\u0027s (sort of) a precedent in the works: LBaaSv2 depends on Barbican to store sensitive certificate key data. 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But what you describe is similar to the L3 refactor discussion.","commit_id":"18dba6d1053dd4514470ef244cdafd4369f56fc7"},{"author":{"_account_id":13438,"name":"Kobi Samoray","email":"kobi.samoray@broadcom.com","username":"ksamoray"},"change_message_id":"2f97c5ffd27212a2c948685bf27a9274f6ae5e4b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":307,"context_line":"* Finalize project names"},{"line_number":308,"context_line":""},{"line_number":309,"context_line":"* Infra patch to create new repos/groups"},{"line_number":310,"context_line":""},{"line_number":311,"context_line":"* Get unit tests passing cleanly."},{"line_number":312,"context_line":""},{"line_number":313,"context_line":"* Upgrade script to migrate db and config data."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5a890539_f7a1f0f7","line":310,"updated":"2014-12-02 15:45:09.000000000","message":"3rd party CI should be re-applied to the relevant repos","commit_id":"18dba6d1053dd4514470ef244cdafd4369f56fc7"},{"author":{"_account_id":6659,"name":"Paul Michali","email":"pc@michali.net","username":"pcm"},"change_message_id":"150487fb8650ad13f139b41ef8d221e52f5339aa","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":318,"context_line":"  as a library appropriately, or if it implies a missing interface in the"},{"line_number":319,"context_line":"  Neutron API."},{"line_number":320,"context_line":""},{"line_number":321,"context_line":"* Refactor L3 agent to not reach into the guts of services."},{"line_number":322,"context_line":""},{"line_number":323,"context_line":"* API tests into each service repo."},{"line_number":324,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5a890539_9a5c671b","line":321,"updated":"2014-12-02 03:45:38.000000000","message":"Also a dependency?","commit_id":"18dba6d1053dd4514470ef244cdafd4369f56fc7"},{"author":{"_account_id":11685,"name":"Stephen Balukoff","email":"stephen@balukoff.com","username":"sbalukoff"},"change_message_id":"1591174f5372be9b55ad24de3090147f67b27ff9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":318,"context_line":"  as a library appropriately, or if it implies a missing interface in the"},{"line_number":319,"context_line":"  Neutron API."},{"line_number":320,"context_line":""},{"line_number":321,"context_line":"* Refactor L3 agent to not reach into the guts of services."},{"line_number":322,"context_line":""},{"line_number":323,"context_line":"* API tests into each service repo."},{"line_number":324,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":4,"id":"5a890539_37946e43","line":321,"updated":"2014-12-02 03:33:31.000000000","message":"The above two points are probably going to be the long tail in this split work. If we haven\u0027t made much progress on this by the time of the \"L\" release, or at least to the L3 agent refactor, are their thoughts about leaving the dependency chain reversal in place longer than simply in Kilo cycle?  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I\u0027m hoping it\u0027s feasible to let the l3 agent do a gross import, and let the affected folks refactor after the split.","commit_id":"18dba6d1053dd4514470ef244cdafd4369f56fc7"},{"author":{"_account_id":11685,"name":"Stephen Balukoff","email":"stephen@balukoff.com","username":"sbalukoff"},"change_message_id":"1591174f5372be9b55ad24de3090147f67b27ff9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":329,"context_line":"* Infra creating separate repos."},{"line_number":330,"context_line":""},{"line_number":331,"context_line":"* REST refactor not colliding at the same time.  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