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We\u0027re never going to get all of the projects done at the same time, so we need to be able to stage the transition.","commit_id":"f2107987bcd212acc161a89058c37af4b481dc77"},{"author":{"_account_id":308,"name":"Thierry Carrez","email":"thierry@openstack.org","username":"ttx"},"change_message_id":"106d632efca177a1599222ea48fb6de5c5d63486","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":67,"context_line":""},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"#. Port each application to 3.4 and stop testing it under 2.7."},{"line_number":69,"context_line":""},{"line_number":70,"context_line":"   * There is no need to test an application under both versions,"},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"     since they only need to be deployed under one version at a time."},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"#. 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I modified the wording.","commit_id":"f2107987bcd212acc161a89058c37af4b481dc77"},{"author":{"_account_id":4190,"name":"lifeless","email":"robertc@robertcollins.net","username":"lifeless"},"change_message_id":"3e3ce031cca9d8f26d973e51f2863b4e806bee91","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":172,"context_line":""},{"line_number":173,"context_line":"   This may be as simple as::"},{"line_number":174,"context_line":""},{"line_number":175,"context_line":"       python setup.py --classifiers | grep \u0027Language\u0027 | cut -f5 -d: | grep \u0027\\.\u0027"},{"line_number":176,"context_line":""},{"line_number":177,"context_line":"3. 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So - I like the means of detecting three, but I think the policy should be something like:\n\n - 2.x run: install using 2.x\n - 3.x run: install using 3.x if supported otherwise 2.x.\n\nThis may be what you mean of course, but if so it wasn\u0027t clear in the context of the work item, at least to me.","commit_id":"9c458712494c04f788b062762183ef0232c04448"},{"author":{"_account_id":2472,"name":"Doug Hellmann","email":"dhellmann@redhat.com","username":"doug-hellmann"},"change_message_id":"deb4f504190bc86414268d82eddebdb704a10b5f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":172,"context_line":""},{"line_number":173,"context_line":"   This may be as simple as::"},{"line_number":174,"context_line":""},{"line_number":175,"context_line":"       python setup.py --classifiers | grep \u0027Language\u0027 | cut -f5 -d: | grep \u0027\\.\u0027"},{"line_number":176,"context_line":""},{"line_number":177,"context_line":"3. 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