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I haven\u0027t looked at how we do the wrapping here in awhile but we should be setting up the \"__cause__\" under Python 3. if we are doing that correctly then we can remove these.","accounts_in_message":[],"_revision_number":1},{"id":"773a3ca1b3d550513fe53202974f7ce5bc2ee983","author":{"_account_id":11816,"name":"mike bayer","display_name":"Mike Bayer","email":"mike_mp@zzzcomputing.com","username":"zzzeek","status":"Red Hat"},"date":"2019-11-11 15:13:45.000000000","message":"Patch Set 1:\n\nactually neutrons\u0027 issue resolution at https://opendev.org/openstack/neutron/commit/f21eed3998a793f5c40eb248469dc4245de3415a indicates they did not solve this error in the way I would prefer, as they are duplicating logic that should be here by doing \"_is_nested_instance(e, db_exc.DBError) and \u00271305\u0027 in str(e)\".   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