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{"/PATCHSET_LEVEL":[{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"9e57802cf9f769a0bd16bf1c5cb78107161778ae","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"98bacef2_66ff63a1","updated":"2025-05-22 16:50:35.000000000","message":"I don\u0027t like moving things so late, cleaning up unmaintained branches is already lagging too much anyway. but I also don\u0027t feel strong enough about this to vote -1","commit_id":"7e44739cf39a96b151e8d9d826df1367fdb14096"},{"author":{"_account_id":13252,"name":"Dr. Jens Harbott","display_name":"Jens Harbott (frickler)","email":"frickler@offenerstapel.de","username":"jrosenboom"},"change_message_id":"6a90ae8b3ee1c756d0622d64648c48701e1904bc","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"e52f2f2a_8d321103","in_reply_to":"7d72ce8d_9b5ce7b3","updated":"2025-05-22 19:30:38.000000000","message":"all the arguments are well known, I didn\u0027t want to start arguing about it, just to explain why I don\u0027t want to +2 this patch after you explicitly added me as reviewer","commit_id":"7e44739cf39a96b151e8d9d826df1367fdb14096"},{"author":{"_account_id":17685,"name":"Elod Illes","email":"elod.illes@est.tech","username":"elod.illes"},"change_message_id":"3fff13fb331408f602c39848a55c8c1942276c5e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"7d72ce8d_9b5ce7b3","in_reply_to":"98bacef2_66ff63a1","updated":"2025-05-22 18:27:47.000000000","message":"Jens, the keyword is the **estimated** EOM/EOL transition...\n\nOkay, so clearly around the official 2025.2 Flamingo release date teams will be busy with their flamingo releases, especially as we - release team - want them to focus on that. who will prepare final releases for 2024.1 Caracal with special care to not release broken **final** releases when teams are dealing with the new releases? It doesn\u0027t make any sense to me to keep the current Caracal EOM date. the usual way (since first the Extended Maintenance, later Unmaintained phase were introduced) was to propose the planned EOL date to approximately 3 cycles later, which is always around the release date of N+3 release. earlier when i pointed out we should move it like a constant {N+3 release date} + X weeks people were reluctant to do that as \"we don\u0027t want to say that stable supported phase is longer than 3 cycles\", but as i said, no one will deal with preparing final releases and EOL\u0027ing around the date of the coordinated new release. I personally do not feel that 4 weeks makes such a difference in any way, but it clearly a better timing in my opinion, so that teams (who did not prepare already to the transition can start their preparation right after the release and things have 4 weeks to settle... (okay, i know, that there are always people who leaves things to the day of transition, but that\u0027s another story...))\n\nAdding 3 cycles as **estimated** EOM/EOL date and then moving it some weeks later when we see the future release date, gives the sense to consumers that \"okay, this new stable release will be supported like 3 cycles / one and a half year or so\" so they CAN prepare their upgrades based on that (ideal world, i know). if we \"give\" them extra 4 weeks (which is not a must as we don\u0027t even have a rule to make a cycle 26 weeks long everytime, we just usually propose it around that length, this is also another story...) that doesn\u0027t change things that much and we change it when we are near the transition date (~5 months from now).\n\nI understand your point, but i don\u0027t think this is worth the fuss and argue about it. but maybe it\u0027s just me. \n\n(another option could be to plan the 2026.1 release date - thus 2026.1 cycle length basically - so that it gonna be 4 weeks earlier than the EOL date of 2024.2 Dalmation, but that would result a 21-22 weeks long cycle. another funny choice)","commit_id":"7e44739cf39a96b151e8d9d826df1367fdb14096"},{"author":{"_account_id":17685,"name":"Elod Illes","email":"elod.illes@est.tech","username":"elod.illes"},"change_message_id":"d40589d5c439c6b48e920dbc6a2ada24437e4980","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"644e24b9_00c471f3","in_reply_to":"e52f2f2a_8d321103","updated":"2025-05-23 05:40:40.000000000","message":"Acknowledged.","commit_id":"7e44739cf39a96b151e8d9d826df1367fdb14096"}]}