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Or even just \"openstack/insight\"?\n\nOr \"ceilometer-data-acquisition\"?\n\nOr \"ceilometer-measurement\"?","commit_id":"a278692e560cbb50d0e1e18fdb547e35555b2cd2"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"723f52137c7341f1d2c6073fce0a4d07faebff35","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":""},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"The proposed change is to create a dedicated Openstack package called"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"\"ceilometer-collection\" or equivalent that contains only the agents responsbile of"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"retrieving data from the Infrastructure as a Service and Platform as a Service"},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"components of the OpenStack ecosystem."},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3afb71cf_aa3d442c","line":64,"in_reply_to":"3afb71cf_c9d9b5f4","updated":"2015-06-11 02:01:14.000000000","message":"i like insight to be honest -- it\u0027s broad enough to capture the fact that some people are using polling as heartbeat rather than measurement","commit_id":"a278692e560cbb50d0e1e18fdb547e35555b2cd2"},{"author":{"_account_id":7052,"name":"Fabio Giannetti","email":"fgiannet@cisco.com","username":"fabgia"},"change_message_id":"905b4701eae919fa90633ebf76cd4a5370908eb9","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":61,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":""},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"The proposed change is to create a dedicated Openstack package called"},{"line_number":64,"context_line":"\"ceilometer-collection\" or equivalent that contains only the agents responsbile of"},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"retrieving data from the Infrastructure as a Service and Platform as a Service"},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"components of the OpenStack ecosystem."},{"line_number":67,"context_line":""}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"3afb71cf_c9d9b5f4","line":64,"in_reply_to":"5afe65bd_247e07af","updated":"2015-06-10 22:37:16.000000000","message":"I will change it into ceilometer-measurement. 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I\u0027ll clarify this in a future patchset.\n\nAs far as I can discern the easiest way to do the migration while preserving history is to push the old code to a new remote with a different name and then extracting the unused parts. 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The notification agent part and the central/compute agent part."},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"If this is the path selected by the community we will split the notification"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"ba3cc151_e1e83db5","line":70,"updated":"2015-07-03 08:08:03.000000000","message":"Let me add some thoughts here.\nThe idea of splitting is great. The question I I think about is can we have several projects which may be used independently as a result? \n\nIt\u0027s clear about alarming: yes. It may be extended and evaluate over the data in elasticsearch or somewhere else.\nI believe it\u0027s true about Collectors too. It may publish to external system. But if we separate the agents we will have two projects with the same idea \u0027collect data and publish it somewhere\u0027. Maybe it\u0027s better to provide a flexible way for disabling polling if needed?\n\nAnd what is the idea of the rest Ceilometer, without Collector and Alarming? Process requests from users, maybe analisys. I believe this niche is considered to be filled by Gnocchi","commit_id":"aa23a1cc7f0a21487e36ad631f019a8b20eb26bc"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"8310f69e78c5b416b3b7f6d65dda437b1b51398d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":67,"context_line":"be determined that contains only the agents responsible for retrieving data"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"from the Infrastructure as a Service and Platform as a Service components of"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"the OpenStack ecosystem."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"A potentially better alternative is to separate the agents into two"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":"repositories. The notification agent part and the central/compute agent part."},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"If this is the path selected by the community we will split the notification"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"ba3cc151_3fb87529","line":70,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_399e5563","updated":"2015-07-03 11:27:36.000000000","message":"Yeah, that all sounds sane to me. I agree that what you\u0027re describing as part 1 does still seem a bit big but it is hard to change everything all at once given the number of people we have, getting 2, 3 and 4 happening will itself be a huge improvement.\n\nI agree with the way your are group 1a and 1b. Makes sense. Seems unlikely we could get to that in Liberty but M*? I hope so.","commit_id":"aa23a1cc7f0a21487e36ad631f019a8b20eb26bc"},{"author":{"_account_id":7478,"name":"Nadya Shakhat","email":"nadmi4@gmail.com","username":"nprivalova"},"change_message_id":"7082661cc4ed3cce4bb9d22f23e89ee9425831d8","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":67,"context_line":"be determined that contains only the agents responsible for retrieving data"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"from the Infrastructure as a Service and Platform as a Service components of"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"the OpenStack ecosystem."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"A potentially better alternative is to separate the agents into two"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":"repositories. The notification agent part and the central/compute agent part."},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"If this is the path selected by the community we will split the notification"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"ba3cc151_399e5563","line":70,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_441c9769","updated":"2015-07-03 11:08:16.000000000","message":"Yep, \u0027listens\u0027 is more appropriate here, agree. \nLet me try to describe how telemetry will look like after all things are done (just theoretically and assuming your suggestions):\n\n1. Ex-Ceilometer \u0027core\u0027 consists of notification agent, transformers, publishers and dispatchers (they will stay here, right?), data collection. The purpose is to listen to mq, process messages using transformers, publish and maybe keep and process the data. User may publish to external system or back to Ceilometer or Gnocchi (and messages are in mq again...). If the data is in Ceilo(Gnocchi) it may be requested.\n\n2. Alarming part (it\u0027s clear)\n\n3. Polling. According to your \u0027another spec\u0027 this service will poll OpenStack services and sends to service 1.\n\n4. Gnocchi\n\nEx-Ceilometer \u0027core\u0027 seems too heavy still. What do you think? The chain \u0027notification agent (\"queue listener\" may be more suitable now)+ transformers + publishers\u0027 seems stand-alone. So eventually we need to think more about dispatcher, work with databases and request processing. As for me the two ones may be considered as \u0027beforeGnocchi\u0027. Can it be separated and deprecated one day? Dispatcher is better to be kept in 1. I guess. To summarize, item 1. may be divided as follows:\n\n1a. notification agent, transformers, publishers and dispatchers\n\n1b. data keeper and processor (old-style Gnocchi)\n\nI\u0027m writing here just to record my thoughts. Looks like we need as many ideas and questions as possible","commit_id":"aa23a1cc7f0a21487e36ad631f019a8b20eb26bc"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"fff409d273acb713a88d5d1f5b0ce0a182cca356","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":67,"context_line":"be determined that contains only the agents responsible for retrieving data"},{"line_number":68,"context_line":"from the Infrastructure as a Service and Platform as a Service components of"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"the OpenStack ecosystem."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":"A potentially better alternative is to separate the agents into two"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":"repositories. The notification agent part and the central/compute agent part."},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"If this is the path selected by the community we will split the notification"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":11,"id":"ba3cc151_441c9769","line":70,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_e1e83db5","updated":"2015-07-03 08:24:53.000000000","message":"Thanks for your comments. They\u0027ve helped me clarify my thinking a bit on why the split here could be to two things. You say:\n\n\u003e two projects with the same idea \u0027collect data and publish it somewhere\u0027.\n\nTo me the notification agent doesn\u0027t collect data, it listens for data that something else has created and massages it such that ceilometer finds it useful.\n\nI can imagine it being possible to use the polling agents independently (without _any_ of the rest of what is ceilometer, including the notification agent) but there\u0027s no specific value in having the notification agent standalone, especially since it has _many_ collaborators (things it listens to).\n\nSo maybe the right thing to do is extract the polling agents and leave the notification agent where it is? It is required by the polling agents and the api-server (with the new pipeline removal changes) and is effectively the \"thing\" which makes arbitrary data into ceilometer data.\n\nWhat we don\u0027t want to have happen is that people have to install the polling agents in order to make use of the notification agent.","commit_id":"aa23a1cc7f0a21487e36ad631f019a8b20eb26bc"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"ed1e4ea91a344ee39c3c1fa118c951963863231c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":5,"context_line":" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode"},{"line_number":6,"context_line":""},{"line_number":7,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":8,"context_line":"Ceilometer Notification, Central and Compute Agents Split"},{"line_number":9,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":""},{"line_number":11,"context_line":"There are several benefits of separating Ceilometer in different repositories:"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_5048c6b2","line":8,"updated":"2015-07-03 12:31:56.000000000","message":"drop notification if we continue","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b76d77b76151366c7763fa36c5094588094f7f4f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":5,"context_line":" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode"},{"line_number":6,"context_line":""},{"line_number":7,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":8,"context_line":"Ceilometer Notification, Central and Compute Agents Split"},{"line_number":9,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":10,"context_line":""},{"line_number":11,"context_line":"There are several benefits of separating Ceilometer in different repositories:"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_30050213","line":8,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_5048c6b2","updated":"2015-07-03 12:37:00.000000000","message":"Aw, yeah, toit.","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"ed1e4ea91a344ee39c3c1fa118c951963863231c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Proposed change"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":""},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"The proposed change is to create a dedicated Openstack package named \"toit\""},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"(Gaelic for \"smoke\" to be aligned with alarming\u0027s name, \"aodh\", which means"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"\"fire\") that contains only the agents responsible for polling data from the"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"OpenStack ecosystem. 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Choose wisely!","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"5cc189f0799a7ccbfba08f1964ac28207541674e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Proposed change"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":""},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"The proposed change is to create a dedicated Openstack package named \"toit\""},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"(Gaelic for \"smoke\" to be aligned with alarming\u0027s name, \"aodh\", which means"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"\"fire\") that contains only the agents responsible for polling data from the"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"OpenStack ecosystem. 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As of Kilo, these agents are actually just one agent,"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_1350ac09","line":60,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_da058c14","updated":"2015-07-07 08:07:04.000000000","message":"gaelic:\ntuiscint insight\nradharc vision\n\nThis is a nice little resource (evening has audio): http://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/vision?q\u003dvision\n\nThe reason gaelic came up was because alarming ending up on aodh, which is gaelic. I don\u0027t know who suggested it but it was we received so it made sense that collecting ought to be gaelic too.\n\nWe keep saying it doesn\u0027t really matter but it is amazing how often people will reject something simply because there\u0027s a vague association. Pretty much every word in the dictionary is also in the urbandictionary with some less than salubrious associations.\n\nYou guys (or other reviewers) figure something out and let me know. There\u0027s no rush I guess as we\u0027ve got other fires burning at the moment.","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":7052,"name":"Fabio Giannetti","email":"fgiannet@cisco.com","username":"fabgia"},"change_message_id":"1278d1c5adc09b216eb97e47a2c365bbc5bcb92a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":57,"context_line":"Proposed change"},{"line_number":58,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"},{"line_number":59,"context_line":""},{"line_number":60,"context_line":"The proposed change is to create a dedicated Openstack package named \"toit\""},{"line_number":61,"context_line":"(Gaelic for \"smoke\" to be aligned with alarming\u0027s name, \"aodh\", which means"},{"line_number":62,"context_line":"\"fire\") that contains only the agents responsible for polling data from the"},{"line_number":63,"context_line":"OpenStack ecosystem. 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Personally I would not use this name for the project.\nI like INSIGHT, that is really what the collection is going to provide.","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"ed1e4ea91a344ee39c3c1fa118c951963863231c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":68,"context_line":"message bus to be consumed by listeners such as the ceilometer notification"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"agent as described in the `Pollsters No Transform`_ spec."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":".. _Pollsters No Transform: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192286/"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"Alternatives"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_f0655a1d","line":71,"updated":"2015-07-03 12:31:56.000000000","message":"there\u0027s an obvious overlap here. which do you think should be done first?","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":6537,"name":"gordon chung","email":"gord@live.ca","username":"chungg"},"change_message_id":"5cc189f0799a7ccbfba08f1964ac28207541674e","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":68,"context_line":"message bus to be consumed by listeners such as the ceilometer notification"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"agent as described in the `Pollsters No Transform`_ spec."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":".. _Pollsters No Transform: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192286/"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"Alternatives"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_7ae1e0fd","line":71,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_4b457b40","updated":"2015-07-06 20:28:52.000000000","message":"word","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b1691e3614fe90dae3dba3624a95c6ece112cba6","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":68,"context_line":"message bus to be consumed by listeners such as the ceilometer notification"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"agent as described in the `Pollsters No Transform`_ spec."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":".. _Pollsters No Transform: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192286/"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"Alternatives"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_532f1488","line":71,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_7ae1e0fd","updated":"2015-07-07 08:07:04.000000000","message":"Unless we follow the \"just delete all the tests\" suggestion from yesterday, it might easier to write new polling agent from scratch in its own repo, dragging in stuff from ceilo as needed.\n\nHowever that still leaves the task of cleaning up the ceilo-side tests, which is going to be fun.","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"b76d77b76151366c7763fa36c5094588094f7f4f","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":68,"context_line":"message bus to be consumed by listeners such as the ceilometer notification"},{"line_number":69,"context_line":"agent as described in the `Pollsters No Transform`_ spec."},{"line_number":70,"context_line":""},{"line_number":71,"context_line":".. _Pollsters No Transform: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192286/"},{"line_number":72,"context_line":""},{"line_number":73,"context_line":"Alternatives"},{"line_number":74,"context_line":"------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":12,"id":"ba3cc151_4b457b40","line":71,"in_reply_to":"ba3cc151_f0655a1d","updated":"2015-07-03 12:37:00.000000000","message":"Based on what you were saying earlier I thought the intent was to do no-transform first to give aodh some time to prove if it was going to be cool or  a disaster.","commit_id":"71522b6ab9f5bd2d9c62201f184e3f01da35eb09"}]}