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{"specs/mitaka/remove-wsme.rst":[{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"96f2ca6940838e2a96faf31d7f1ca2f23004894d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":19,"context_line":"Since that choice there have been changes which mean that WSME is no"},{"line_number":20,"context_line":"longer a good choice as a web framework:"},{"line_number":21,"context_line":""},{"line_number":22,"context_line":"* XML responses are no longer required in the OpenStack environment."},{"line_number":23,"context_line":"* Only a small number of projects in OpenStack have chosen to use"},{"line_number":24,"context_line":"  WSME."},{"line_number":25,"context_line":"* According to the WSME project core team, WSME has poor support for"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"da20952f_94648b49","line":22,"updated":"2015-08-28 14:45:11.000000000","message":"whereas XML requests are required?\n\nJust joking - pre-bankholiday friday afternoon fun!","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"96f2ca6940838e2a96faf31d7f1ca2f23004894d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":25,"context_line":"* According to the WSME project core team, WSME has poor support for"},{"line_number":26,"context_line":"  HTTP (notably in its status code handling and content-type"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"  handling), a difficult to maintain architecture and is itself not an"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"  active and growing project."},{"line_number":29,"context_line":""},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"Therefore it is proposed that WSME be removed from ceilometer and"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"aodh to be replaced with a framework which is more correct in its"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"da20952f_94f24b6e","line":28,"updated":"2015-08-28 14:45:11.000000000","message":"Do you have a reference to that? Pretty much this would sound to me as if the developers themselves invite people to not use it.","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"18bc63b9117766008976a02be1f5061334f17d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":25,"context_line":"* According to the WSME project core team, WSME has poor support for"},{"line_number":26,"context_line":"  HTTP (notably in its status code handling and content-type"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"  handling), a difficult to maintain architecture and is itself not an"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"  active and growing project."},{"line_number":29,"context_line":""},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"Therefore it is proposed that WSME be removed from ceilometer and"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"aodh to be replaced with a framework which is more correct in its"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"da20952f_5c6bf11f","line":28,"in_reply_to":"da20952f_94f24b6e","updated":"2015-09-08 09:43:06.000000000","message":"I\u0027m one of the two active cores on WSME so yes, the developers themselves invite people to not use it :)\n\nThe people who used to be core were no longer maintaining it so the people who were reporting the most bugs were pressed into services as cores.","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":8290,"name":"liusheng","email":"liusheng2048@gmail.com","username":"LiuSheng"},"change_message_id":"13485da3bc8a274cb1fcf456e47253e990994b7b","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":""},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"Therefore it is proposed that WSME be removed from ceilometer and"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"aodh to be replaced with a framework which is more correct in its"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"use of HTTP and has a thriving community."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"Problem description"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"da20952f_49518861","line":32,"updated":"2015-08-28 09:44:04.000000000","message":"maybe there will be some API usage difference if we switch to other framewok ;)","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"96f2ca6940838e2a96faf31d7f1ca2f23004894d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":29,"context_line":""},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"Therefore it is proposed that WSME be removed from ceilometer and"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"aodh to be replaced with a framework which is more correct in its"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"use of HTTP and has a thriving community."},{"line_number":33,"context_line":""},{"line_number":34,"context_line":"Problem description"},{"line_number":35,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":1,"id":"da20952f_b482ef92","line":32,"in_reply_to":"da20952f_49518861","updated":"2015-08-28 14:45:11.000000000","message":"Would it be a possibility to remove WSME and just be good with it.\nIn Neutron we\u0027re replacing the whole homegrown WSGI framework with Pecan - we\u0027re 90% functionally equivalent at the moment, and it works like a charm.\n\nWhen I looked at WSME + Pecan, the added value from WSME was mostly in handling different content-types; it also provides some simplification around routing, but isn\u0027t Pecan already simple enough?","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":261,"name":"Salvatore Orlando","email":"salv.orlando@gmail.com","username":"salvatore-orlando"},"change_message_id":"96f2ca6940838e2a96faf31d7f1ca2f23004894d","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":43,"context_line":"framework."},{"line_number":44,"context_line":""},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"The most obvious choice is probably to use the Pecan plus"},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"`Voluptuous`_ in a similar way to what gnocchi is doing. 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This is what we use in some parts of Zaqar to compensate the lack of internal support for content validation in Falcon.\n\nI personally like the fact that jsonschema and Flacon are separate and each of them solve a different problem.\n\nHowever, community wise, I\u0027d probably take a look at oslo.versionedobjects too as a validation \"framework\"","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":11564,"name":"Chris Dent","email":"cdent@anticdent.org","username":"chdent"},"change_message_id":"18bc63b9117766008976a02be1f5061334f17d8a","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":44,"context_line":""},{"line_number":45,"context_line":"The most obvious choice is probably to use the Pecan plus"},{"line_number":46,"context_line":"`Voluptuous`_ in a similar way to what gnocchi is doing. 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It doesn\u0027t have a huge community but the few folks behind it are active and responsive.\n\nWhat I personally like about Falcon is its minimalist design.","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":10239,"name":"Dmitry Tantsur","email":"dtantsur@protonmail.com","username":"dtantsur"},"change_message_id":"88b56a579cf5a22c5eab748589cbb39580f00609","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":64,"context_line":"  already in global-requirements."},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"* `Flask`_ is, to at least some, the de-facto hackers web framework."},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"  It has a huge community and is actively maintained. 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I know Keystone has chosen to move to `Flask` so, picking it would be also a good community choice.","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":13560,"name":"Rohit Jaiswal","email":"rohit.jaiswal@gmail.com","username":"rjaiswal"},"change_message_id":"de4dec86e36d64ca17d8fe3ae389ea021650b21c","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":64,"context_line":"  already in global-requirements."},{"line_number":65,"context_line":"* `Flask`_ is, to at least some, the de-facto hackers web framework."},{"line_number":66,"context_line":"  It has a huge community and is actively maintained. 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It\u0027s not WSGI if it doesn\u0027t work properly on multiple WSGI servers...","commit_id":"73885df2e1dae11c03f97242525bb224103ccb61"},{"author":{"_account_id":1955,"name":"Alan Pevec","email":"alan.pevec@redhat.com","username":"apevec"},"change_message_id":"ef8778a0bb5f3e041535231aa7bb32f97a2347b4","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[{"line_number":26,"context_line":"  HTTP (notably in its status code handling and content-type"},{"line_number":27,"context_line":"  handling), a difficult to maintain architecture and is itself not an"},{"line_number":28,"context_line":"  active and growing project."},{"line_number":29,"context_line":""},{"line_number":30,"context_line":"Therefore it is proposed that WSME be removed from ceilometer and"},{"line_number":31,"context_line":"aodh to be replaced with a framework which is more correct in its"},{"line_number":32,"context_line":"use of HTTP and has a thriving community."}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"9aed3d3a_ceb56bd1","line":29,"updated":"2016-02-25 18:12:25.000000000","message":"One more point:\n\n* WSME looks like abandonware, there were no real changes since Aug 2015: https://github.com/openstack/wsme/commits/master","commit_id":"994b6b955a86939bc531b13674a3896f2c79a646"}]}