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{"/PATCHSET_LEVEL":[{"author":{"_account_id":5202,"name":"Erno Kuvaja","email":"jokke@usr.fi","username":"jokke"},"change_message_id":"1d0bb8035be984688ccf0d342903d9cf00edb2fa","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"700f92df_6fa23925","updated":"2024-04-29 10:23:29.000000000","message":"I disagree, they definitely shouldn\u0027t (and can\u0027t iiuc) to be removed before everything has moved away from using them, but that is not a blocker for deprecating them and indicating that they should not be used.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"},{"author":{"_account_id":4264,"name":"Matthias Runge","email":"mrunge@redhat.com","username":"mrunge"},"change_message_id":"3c9501bb7c22707e87e4fb13eee226d5596f8ed1","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"61cf3158_b4089a92","updated":"2024-04-02 08:03:11.000000000","message":"Thank you, imho gnocchi should be considered as deprecated, but not sg-core.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"},{"author":{"_account_id":34975,"name":"Jaromír Wysoglad","email":"jwysogla@redhat.com","username":"jwysogla"},"change_message_id":"bd452673c453db6821140877d37d67e9dcb8fb22","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"1c16f44e_0f571389","updated":"2025-06-10 20:27:58.000000000","message":"While deprecating Gnocchi and sg-core is probably the goal we should eventually work towards, I don\u0027t see Gnocchi going away anytime soon, so it\u0027d make sense to me to remove the deprecation of gnocchi service here. As for deprecating sg-core, that\u0027s I think actually pretty close. Juan added the prometheus exporter at least to the compute and central agents, so that should be the prefered option of getting metrics from ceilometer to prometheus. I\u0027m not sure if we need sg-core for metrics coming from the notifications, but if a direct prometheus exporter can be used there as well, then let\u0027s leave sg-core option deprecated and work towards removing sg-core from the telemetry jobs.\n\nI think @jlarriba@redhat.com should be able to answer the question if we need sg-core for metrics from notifications.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"},{"author":{"_account_id":9816,"name":"Takashi Kajinami","email":"kajinamit@oss.nttdata.com","username":"kajinamit"},"change_message_id":"e93b6f25afdc9c43050de567ae1b5f15541e1eb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"fa22b760_b0be7634","in_reply_to":"11b64609_9305d520","updated":"2025-06-16 07:44:27.000000000","message":"What is confusing is that users have to set the deprecated option to disable gnocchi. The current definition sounds like that we always require gnocchi (because we suggest users not setting the gnocchi option). If we deprecate this option, aiming removal of gnocchi, then we should switch the default.\n\nI disagree with deprecating gnocchi support at this moment, because honestly speaking I\u0027ve not seen real mature use case with telemetry and an alternative backend so far. I know that Aetos is being created to replace it, but we still need  appropriate migration path, or at least ask for feedback from operators in ML before we actually determine to remove gnocchi.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"},{"author":{"_account_id":32968,"name":"Juan Larriba","email":"jlarriba@redhat.com","username":"jlarriba"},"change_message_id":"11d81eb890e24523c6cf4fb90e180b94d1d8fab8","unresolved":false,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"11b64609_9305d520","in_reply_to":"1c16f44e_0f571389","updated":"2025-06-16 07:37:00.000000000","message":"I dont foresee sg-core going anywhere soon, as it is needed for metrics coming from notifications. The current prometheus-exporter only exposes metrics from the poller service.\n\nCeilometer control plane poller is just one of the services notifying, and there are other services notifying their own metrics, so we either add another prometheus-exporter to the ceilometer-agent-notification or we keep using the current sg-core solution. For the time being I am inclined to the latter option.\n\nI would not deprecate sg-core, but I would definitively deprecate Gnocchi. Even if Gnocchi is still widely used, it seems clear it is not fit for big loads and its scaling capabilities are very bad, so I would like to see people migrate out of that and start basing their deployments in Aetos.\n\nThis does not mean that Gnocchi is going to be unsupported any time soon, but the objective is to get it unsupported eventually.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"},{"author":{"_account_id":9816,"name":"Takashi Kajinami","email":"kajinamit@oss.nttdata.com","username":"kajinamit"},"change_message_id":"ad0ce9307fcbc10d413d3c5d278ac561d413424b","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[],"source_content_type":"","patch_set":1,"id":"adbbf3bf_67d43358","in_reply_to":"61cf3158_b4089a92","updated":"2024-04-02 08:11:21.000000000","message":"I think deprecation of these options and deprecation of actual backends are different topics. Confusing point of these options currently deprecated is that users still have to set the service_available.gnocchi option to disable gnocchi tests. We should deprecate it only after we make the option ineffective or disable gnocchi tests by default.\n\nAlso, I\u0027m a bit concerned with deprecating gnocchi without global announcement to gather some feedback. Even if we get the global consensus to replace gnocchi, we still have to evaluate its effect on deployment tools. AFAIK none of the deployment tools in OpenStack namespace (kolla, OSA and Puppet OpenStack) does support prometheus deployment and we have to work on before removing gnocchi.","commit_id":"d7c295e32640bb81dac453a5116329008774c7dc"}]}