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YOu might want to expand on what these tools are and what they do.","commit_id":"e97d5263260e245913eb6b7bae9c7b5d92e185b2"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"d37a1210f5ec8d1488c89d6b516975fe01810fb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":127,"context_line":""},{"line_number":128,"context_line":"This work will require a complete switch away from CentOS once the "},{"line_number":129,"context_line":"initial release of the Debian base occurs, unless the community has"},{"line_number":130,"context_line":"the additional resources to support maintaining and testing both a CentOS"},{"line_number":131,"context_line":"and Debian base."},{"line_number":132,"context_line":""},{"line_number":133,"context_line":"Alternatives"},{"line_number":134,"context_line":"------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"0c8f435e_8cece2a9","line":131,"range":{"start_line":130,"start_character":60,"end_line":131,"end_character":16},"updated":"2021-03-18 21:28:36.000000000","message":"lol.  No.","commit_id":"e97d5263260e245913eb6b7bae9c7b5d92e185b2"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"d37a1210f5ec8d1488c89d6b516975fe01810fb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":140,"context_line":"1) Do nothing, stay with CentOS-7, which is supported until July 2024 and"},{"line_number":141,"context_line":"see how the new RHEL derivatives such as RockyLinux or AlmaLinux play"},{"line_number":142,"context_line":"out. 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Suggest you make the case a bit more strongly as to why we should not do this.","commit_id":"e97d5263260e245913eb6b7bae9c7b5d92e185b2"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"d37a1210f5ec8d1488c89d6b516975fe01810fb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":143,"context_line":"prepared for such a transition."},{"line_number":144,"context_line":""},{"line_number":145,"context_line":"2) Use CentOS Stream, same work to move to RockyLinux, but will also"},{"line_number":146,"context_line":"require continued updating of userspace as CentOS Stream moves forward"},{"line_number":147,"context_line":"and increased testing."},{"line_number":148,"context_line":""},{"line_number":149,"context_line":"3) Another option would be to put more resources into the multi-os"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"0375cc4b_a15d63da","line":146,"range":{"start_line":146,"start_character":8,"end_line":146,"end_character":26},"updated":"2021-03-18 21:28:36.000000000","message":"Again, why is this a bad idea?  Certainly switching to Stream will be less work than switching to a completely different package manager (and installer and etc...).  I think you need to make the case to not do this more clearly and strongly.","commit_id":"e97d5263260e245913eb6b7bae9c7b5d92e185b2"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"d37a1210f5ec8d1488c89d6b516975fe01810fb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":147,"context_line":"and increased testing."},{"line_number":148,"context_line":""},{"line_number":149,"context_line":"3) Another option would be to put more resources into the multi-os"},{"line_number":150,"context_line":"project and complete the OpenEmbedded implementation."},{"line_number":151,"context_line":""},{"line_number":152,"context_line":"Data model impact"},{"line_number":153,"context_line":"-----------------"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"c312040b_d10d6bfa","line":150,"range":{"start_line":150,"start_character":26,"end_line":150,"end_character":38},"updated":"2021-03-18 21:28:36.000000000","message":"Again, why would this option be a bad idea?  It\u0027s fairly far along and could be completed well before a switch to another OS.","commit_id":"e97d5263260e245913eb6b7bae9c7b5d92e185b2"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"d37a1210f5ec8d1488c89d6b516975fe01810fb9","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":195,"context_line":"--------------"},{"line_number":196,"context_line":""},{"line_number":197,"context_line":"The update and patching mechanisms will need to be changed, this will"},{"line_number":198,"context_line":"be looked at in more details with an additional speficication if needed."},{"line_number":199,"context_line":""},{"line_number":200,"context_line":"Implementation"},{"line_number":201,"context_line":"\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d\u003d"}],"source_content_type":"text/x-rst","patch_set":2,"id":"6601c447_77e9d781","line":198,"range":{"start_line":198,"start_character":48,"end_line":198,"end_character":61},"updated":"2021-03-18 21:28:36.000000000","message":"In particular, how do you update from a CentOS base to the new Debian base?  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Yes, if they do change their minds in the future that effort would turn out to have been wasted, but there may also be other viable alternatives at that point.","commit_id":"fa24615d120806f82dd9987768efc88dccad9022"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"c38904a28669031600e3d20314c1bb4e19c1f22c","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":86,"context_line":"process to address CVEs. This would also suggest using the latest kernel"},{"line_number":87,"context_line":"available from Debian or OE/Yocto."},{"line_number":88,"context_line":""},{"line_number":89,"context_line":"The remaining distros such as OE/Yocto and Alpine are not considered by "},{"line_number":90,"context_line":"operators/deployers to be enterprise / datacenter ready. 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DO we keep them?  Drop them?  Do the analysis to see which we need to keep and which can be left behind?","commit_id":"fa24615d120806f82dd9987768efc88dccad9022"},{"author":{"_account_id":28286,"name":"Bruce Jones","email":"bruce.e.jones@intel.com","username":"brucej"},"change_message_id":"c38904a28669031600e3d20314c1bb4e19c1f22c","unresolved":true,"context_lines":[{"line_number":133,"context_line":"the additional resources to support maintaining and testing both a CentOS"},{"line_number":134,"context_line":"and Debian base."},{"line_number":135,"context_line":""},{"line_number":136,"context_line":"Debian stable releases happen every few years, Debian11 (Bullseye) is "},{"line_number":137,"context_line":"currently the in-flight release under test. The Debian team has started"},{"line_number":138,"context_line":"the version lockdown will become the stable release before the end of the"},{"line_number":139,"context_line":"year. 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